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fractal7221 On November 08, 2012




Hubbard, Ohio
#46New Post! Sep 09, 2011 @ 22:21:19


Here's a chart the shows estimated temperature data over the past 500 million years. We're actually at a fairly cool period in terms of the Earth's history.



Also, when you expand CO2 and temperature data over 500 million years the correlation does not hold as well as it does over 400,000.
El_Tino On October 12, 2023
booyaka!





Albuquerque, New Mexico
#47New Post! Sep 09, 2011 @ 22:22:57
@fractal7221 Said

That graph does not help the man made global warming cause as it shows a predictable rise and fall of temperature over hundreds of thousands of years; long before modern humans.


So? Nobody ever said that natural forces can't or don't affect the climate. As you'll notice, we're near the top of a cycle here, so we should be getting cooler, but we're getting warmer.

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Though even that chart only shows 0.0089% of the Earth's history. The other charts that show ~130 years of data 2.89x10^-6%. To put that in perspective, imagine living for 80 years; the amount of time represented in the graphs that show 130 years would equal roughly 1 minute and 13 seconds of your life, with most of the change happening in those last 13 seconds.


Well, all of human history is contained in this chart. In fact, humans haven't ever faced a world hotter than the one we're in right now. What makes you think that won't effect us in any way?
fractal7221 On November 08, 2012




Hubbard, Ohio
#48New Post! Sep 09, 2011 @ 22:25:54
It might affect us, but what makes you think we can do anything about it? Even if we somehow reduce all of our emissions to zero temperature would swing greatly.

Plus my understanding was the cooling phase doesn't start until a shutdown of the thermohaline circulation when the oceans get warm enough.
El_Tino On October 12, 2023
booyaka!





Albuquerque, New Mexico
#49New Post! Sep 09, 2011 @ 22:27:31
@fractal7221 Said



Here's a chart the shows estimated temperature data over the past 500 million years. We're actually at a fairly cool period in terms of the Earth's history.


So now we're in an ice age?
fractal7221 On November 08, 2012




Hubbard, Ohio
#50New Post! Sep 09, 2011 @ 22:35:00
@El_Tino Said

So now we're in an ice age?



Yes, we have technically never exited the last ice age period.
ThePainefulTruth On May 06, 2013
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Peoria, Arizona
#51New Post! Sep 10, 2011 @ 06:07:48
@Leon Said

LMAO, your misunderstanding of the scientific process is starting to show.

None of this would contradict the conclusions climate scientists have from their data and charts.

Again, I state, NONE of this would contradict the conclusions climate scientists have from their data and charts.

Yes, water vapor is in the air.

Yes, there is lots of water vapor in the air.

Yes, there is a lot more water vapor than there is CO2.

Yes, water vapor is a greenhouse gas.

Yes, CO2 is a greenhouse gas too.

Yes, water vapor has remained at relatively constant levels during the industrial revolution.

Yes, we humans have been adding CO2 to the air during the industrial revolution.

Yes, temperatures have risen during the industrial revolution.

So, what can we conclude from this?

Try real hard, PT. I even broke it down for you, step by step here.



@El_Tino Said

So, you do know what happens when it gets warmer around water right? Like, if there's more CO2 so the air gets hotter? Yeah, the water heats up and evaporates and you have more water vapor in the air.

Nothing you have said contradicts global warming theories, at all, except your unsupported assertion that the amount of CO2 is "insignificant".

What is your basis for this assertion?



@jonnythan Said

There is zero doubt that we are significantly increasing the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. Absolutely zero doubt. That is literally undeniable. We have a good understanding of the carbon sinks on our planet, and we are pumping billions and billions of tons of CO2 directly into our atmosphere.

You can argue that the planet isn't warming, you can argue that we aren't the cause. But you cannot say that we are not increasing atmospheric CO2, because we absolutely 100% are.


woodss On February 26, 2024




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#52New Post! Sep 10, 2011 @ 06:34:36
@El_Tino Said

So now we're in an ice age?


Thats rubbish so such thing.
woodss On February 26, 2024




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#53New Post! Sep 10, 2011 @ 06:35:03
@fractal7221 Said



Here's a chart the shows estimated temperature data over the past 500 million years. We're actually at a fairly cool period in terms of the Earth's history.



Also, when you expand CO2 and temperature data over 500 million years the correlation does not hold as well as it does over 400,000.


Rubbish.
boxerdc On December 18, 2012

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#54New Post! Sep 10, 2011 @ 15:13:39
@woodss Said

Rubbish.



Rubbish isn't helping..

In fact, unless we start to deal with it differently it makes the problem worse.
El_Tino On October 12, 2023
booyaka!





Albuquerque, New Mexico
#55New Post! Sep 11, 2011 @ 07:09:08


Brick wall, waterfall, girl you think you got it all. But you don't, I do. So boo with your attitude.

ThePainefulTruth On May 06, 2013
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Peoria, Arizona
#56New Post! Sep 11, 2011 @ 11:27:33
Pcptrvanion On November 10, 2014




Howe, Texas
#57New Post! Sep 11, 2011 @ 13:59:51
@woodss Said

Rubbish.


Yes...Science has shown (and has the evidence to support) that the Earth is millions of years old.

This contradicts your non-biblical assumption that the world is only 6,000 years old...so it must be rubbish.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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Here and there,
#58New Post! Sep 11, 2011 @ 14:05:14


I have a question for you.

What do you think the reason is for so many climate scientists around the world to come to the conclusion that ACC is real? You might say it's political bias or something in order to curb fossil fuels or carbon emissions, but why would they want to curb carbon emissions if it weren't causing climate change?

These people are scientists with advanced degrees, all spending their lives doing climate research and publishing papers. Don't you think they'd want to be the ones to publish the real truth?
woodss On February 26, 2024




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#59New Post! Sep 11, 2011 @ 14:13:59
The whole thing about Climate Change is one big con, the earth is actually cooling, a smoke screen to something even more sinister.
drman321 On December 28, 2013




, Florida
#60New Post! Sep 11, 2011 @ 15:40:35
@woodss Said

The whole thing about Climate Change is one big con, the earth is actually cooling, a smoke screen to something even more sinister.



You're an idiot. It is cooling because it is September.
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