Terra Incognito & Intentionally having a child

@sister_of_mercy Said

Plus the world is overpopulated as it is.

However, I don't think it's immoral to have children, it's a personal choice that usually stems from love.

@Thekatzmoue Said

Moral. Subject for a book? Opps, most of them have been written. Lots of them sold too.

@Electric_Banana Said

Nope. Nothing to do with books - I mean, because I personally know better, it wouldn't be a virtuous thing to to do.

@Eaglebauer Said

Okay.

I'm asking this strictly in a non confrontational manner, because I really don't like fighting with you.

Do you honestly not see how incredibly condescending and arrogant you make yourself seem in probably 75% of the posts you make? If you do understand that you come off that way, do you feel that this is an effective method of getting people to listen to what you have to say? And if you don't realize it, is it something you want people to point out to you?

I am not trying to attack you, I honestly would like answers to these questions.

@Electric_Banana Said

It's a genuine concern - I'm not trying to innuendo that I am 'smarter than..'

It's something that's difficult to explain when the subject of 'baby' comes up on rare occasions.

@Eaglebauer Said

I can accept that, but can you answer the questions I asked? I'm really not trying to derail this thread and if you'd rather I ask them somewhere else, that's understandable.

Seriously, I'm not trying to start an argument...I am genuinely interested in hearing your answers.

@Electric_Banana Said

Well....some times I say things to be intentionally arrogant for the sake of humour.

But not directly or personally offensive.

And I wasn't attempting to be condescending this time. I was hoping that some one might actually know what I'm rambling on about. I figured most people would just write this off as crazy talk.

@Eaglebauer Said

Those are common, healthy fears.

Anyone who has kids older than a couple weeks will tell you that they don't know what the hell they're doing and are afraid of giving their children bad information or getting stumped by questions like that. Being a parent often turns people into more philosophical creatures though and in answering a lot of the questions children ask, we learn a lot of answers we ourselves have been trying to figure out.

I don't like waxing poetic often and getting sappy and sentimental, but there's a line from Wordsworth I've kept with me since my oldest child was old enough to talk that says it well:

Oh dearest, dearest Boy! my heart
For better lore would seldom yearn,
Could I but teach the hundredth part
Of what from thee I learn.

Children in general I don't think are prone to asking things in an accusatory manner though, and when they become old enough to wonder why they are here it's usually the existential "Why am I here?" sort of question rather than "Why did mom and dad create me?" In a way the two questions do ask for some of the same answers, but they are two very different questions.

That's all of course in addition to the typical "I never asked to be born" diatribe that preteens get into sometimes, but when they do I feel it's more of a developmental stage in their personalities than genuine soul-damaging angst. I know this is a statement you've made before in assorted ways, but an adult making that statement gives it a meaning that I believe a preteen really wouldn't understand yet, and while it's common for kids to say something like that, it's less common I think for adults to have that sort of existential outlook.

@Electric_Banana Said

Nope. Nothing to do with books - I mean, because I personally know better, it wouldn't be a virtuous thing to to do.

@Belcher Said

Its good to dream man but when your poor its not virtuous to bring a life into the world anyway, knowing you cant properly provide for them. Even though it might be tempting.
Is this what your getting at?