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GreatestIam2 On May 31, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#1New Post! May 07, 2020 @ 15:22:23
Supernatural and fantasy thinking about religion. Is it good or evil?

We can scientifically explain the supernatural itch that some allow to control their thinking.

In children, this might be a good way of expanding their minds, but adults are asked to put away the things of children, which, to me, includes supernatural and fantasy thinking.

I use these to show substance dualism. I see this as a useful trait for us in nature but not for our spiritual and religious sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWx_uVDh4Cw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqYHiejTVM

I see thinking supernaturally as a deterrent to knowing god, even as I promote fantasy thinking in the seeking of the best rulers and laws to live by, which is a good definition for god. After all, Moses, not that he was real, came down from the mountain with rules and laws and not some fantasy supernatural god.

The laws on earth can never be the same laws as in heaven and we can never reach the pinnacle of as above, so below.

Do you see supernatural thinking as childish or adult thinking?

Do you see supernatural thinking in childish as good?

Do you see supernatural thinking in adults as evil?

Regards
DL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvBxFXQy7-M
4d4m On about 17 hours ago




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#2New Post! May 07, 2020 @ 16:07:19
Supernatural thinking is an integral part of every religion in the world.

Moses turns his staff into a serpent and Yaweh parts the Red Sea in Judaism.Jesus raises the dead and turns water into wine (my favorite trick) in Christianity. Moses mounts a winged horse to do battle with the Masters of the Universe in Islam. All the gods of Sumeria, Babylon, Egypt, Greece and Rome did supernatural things. Zoaraster and the gods and goddesses of Hinduism all did the same.

These stories are all used to scare people into obedience and a false morality based on "the boogie man is going to get you if you do something wrong" mentality.

The question; is there is any truth to the supernatural stories? Can people and did people actually do any of these things? If so, how and where?
GreatestIam2 On May 31, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#3New Post! May 11, 2020 @ 18:04:28
@4d4m Said

Supernatural thinking is an integral part of every religion in the world.

Moses turns his staff into a serpent and Yaweh parts the Red Sea in Judaism.Jesus raises the dead and turns water into wine (my favorite trick) in Christianity. Moses mounts a winged horse to do battle with the Masters of the Universe in Islam. All the gods of Sumeria, Babylon, Egypt, Greece and Rome did supernatural things. Zoaraster and the gods and goddesses of Hinduism all did the same.

These stories are all used to scare people into obedience and a false morality based on "the boogie man is going to get you if you do something wrong" mentality.

The question; is there is any truth to the supernatural stories? Can people and did people actually do any of these things? If so, how and where?


I disagree with your first. Buddhism, My own Gnostic Christianity and all the religions that seek knowledge and wisdom instead of a sky daddy do not believe in the supernatural.

Most religions before the literal reading of myths knew that they were looking at myths and not reality.

Regards
DL
4d4m On about 17 hours ago




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#4New Post! May 12, 2020 @ 01:59:07
We can't even say for sure they were not looking at reality or some version of it. There may be no evidence that these things did happen, but there is no evidence to the contrary either.
GreatestIam2 On May 31, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#6New Post! May 13, 2020 @ 18:22:13
@4d4m Said

We can't even say for sure they were not looking at reality or some version of it. There may be no evidence that these things did happen, but there is no evidence to the contrary either.


I disagree and so would Karen Armstrong.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Further.
https://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D

Regards
DL
4d4m On about 17 hours ago




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#7New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 05:59:38
You can say and believe what you like. You can act aloof and more intelligent or whatever. You cannot disprove those things happened, no more than you can disprove the existence of an all knowing creator. It doesn't mean they did, but it doesn't mean they didn't. If you are using logic you have to admit-you do not know.
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#8New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 17:27:16
And there might be reptilians living beneath the surface of Mars, who have periodically sent emissaries such as Mitch the Turtle Man McConnell to influence earth politics.
4d4m On about 17 hours ago




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#9New Post! May 16, 2020 @ 16:58:21
I can go with that. But if there was there would be books written about it and religions to worship them. Have you considered researching Mitch's past life?
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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#10New Post! May 16, 2020 @ 19:09:48
@4d4m Said

I can go with that. But if there was there would be books written about it and religions to worship them. Have you considered researching Mitch's past life?



There are all kinds of books written about them...

"Alien World Order: The Reptilian Plan to Divide and Conquer the Human Race"
"Red Planet"
etc

And news... "One giant leap for reptiles: Have alien-hunters found a lizard on Mars?"


As to religions... why? Are there religions worshiping the Lock Ness Monster?

Why does the lack of a religion negate the possibility of something?
4d4m On about 17 hours ago




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#11New Post! May 20, 2020 @ 03:35:32
It absolutely doesn't, and, I might add, the reason those people are writing about Reptilians is the exact same reason the prophets wrote their books. The prophets were more subtle, thus their stories have survived.
Electric_Banana On May 29, 2020




, New Zealand
#12New Post! May 20, 2020 @ 05:42:19
@GreatestIam2 Said

Supernatural and fantasy thinking about religion. Is it good or evil?

We can scientifically explain the supernatural itch that some allow to control their thinking.

In children, this might be a good way of expanding their minds, but adults are asked to put away the things of children, which, to me, includes supernatural and fantasy thinking.

I use these to show substance dualism. I see this as a useful trait for us in nature but not for our spiritual and religious sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWx_uVDh4Cw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqYHiejTVM

I see thinking supernaturally as a deterrent to knowing god, even as I promote fantasy thinking in the seeking of the best rulers and laws to live by, which is a good definition for god. After all, Moses, not that he was real, came down from the mountain with rules and laws and not some fantasy supernatural god.

The laws on earth can never be the same laws as in heaven and we can never reach the pinnacle of as above, so below.

Do you see supernatural thinking as childish or adult thinking?

Do you see supernatural thinking in childish as good?

Do you see supernatural thinking in adults as evil?

Regards
DL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvBxFXQy7-M


This is a MASSIVE problem that has caused some pretty horrendous issues however it would be just as diabolical to abolish all entertainment mediums taking advantage of occult concepts for sake of novel entertainment.

The problem is this:

Children - Right up until about age eight they are telepathically open to their parents. With the number of 'possessed' or 'spooky psychic' kids in film and lore it can really push some parents over the edge when they're first introduced to comments coming from their toddlers which are synchronized with their current thoughts.

Introduction to Existential Crisis: Some, not all, will find themselves asking questions they didn't realize could be asked. Those same will begin experiencing (actually taking lucid notice of) bizarre phenomena and idiosyncrasies.
Not everyone can afford college and most who can probably don't occupy much space in classrooms for philosophy or epistemology - All they have to go by, to associate with their peculiar new experiences, is SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!
leaving many would-be scientists embarrassing themselves during the early years of their paradigm shift.
4d4m On about 17 hours ago




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#13New Post! May 26, 2020 @ 02:55:55
If a evil priest or someone wanted to destroy a child and were powerful enough they could make strange things happen around the child so his/her parents would think them to be possessed or a poltergeist. Even just drive them crazy enough to get them locked up in a psych ward.
darkman666 On 25 minutes ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#14New Post! May 26, 2020 @ 04:25:47
@4d4m Said

If a evil priest or someone wanted to destroy a child and were powerful enough they could make strange things happen around the child so his/her parents would think them to be possessed or a poltergeist. Even just drive them crazy enough to get them locked up in a psych ward.



not the devil that is visiting, which is side their mother-in-law is visting. you course, rather the devil instead come visit.
GreatestIam2 On May 31, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#15New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 17:33:50
@4d4m Said

You can say and believe what you like. You can act aloof and more intelligent or whatever. You cannot disprove those things happened, no more than you can disprove the existence of an all knowing creator. It doesn't mean they did, but it doesn't mean they didn't. If you are using logic you have to admit-you do not know.


I cannot believe what I like. I go by the evidence.

I do admit to not knowing as a certainty, but it is not up to me to prove that those who make supernatural claims are liars.

It is to them to make their case, and none ever have.

Regards
DL
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