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Marcussextus On November 25, 2014




Adelaide, Australia
#1New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 00:05:38
The Two Party System as it is played today in every allegedly democratic nation has entirely corrupted that very democracy.
It is nothing more than a game of Good cop/Bad cop played on the population at large, a trick of smoke and mirrors to deflect and confuse the voters.
By reducing every issue to an either/or question they remove any hope of real consideration or discussion of issues and can therefore label anyone who tries as being too extreme or outside the process to listen to.
The general public here in Oz has become jaded, dissatisfied but uncertain, and that lead to many small parties and Independents getting votes they may not have otherwise at the last election.
What was the response of the TP hacks? Did they read it as a signal to raise their game, to actually listen to their electorates for a change?
Did they heck! No, they're trying to change the electoral system yet again, to reduce the effectiveness of that system even further so that their right to rule cannot be challenged next time.
Our predecessors fought long and hard to bequeath us a fairer system of governance than what went before and their legacy has been stolen, WE took our eye off the ball, they must be spinning in their graves at our complacence and willful ignorance!
The Media is a vital co-conspirator in this theft, they have power over the TP robots and they USE it (G'day there Rupert!), further reducing our freedom and ability to make rational choices.

What is the answer, what can WE do to reclaim our stolen democracies?
Can we even wake up the madding crowd to the theft?
Is it already too late ?
mrmhead On about 5 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#2New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 00:11:57
You're not the only one fed up:
Jefferson County Recorder of Deeds Debbie Dunnegan called President Barack Obama "our domestic enemy" and suggested the U.S. Constitution would give the U.S. military the authority to oust the president in a coup d'état
"I cannot and do not understand why no action is being taken against our domestic enemy. I know he is supposedly the commander in chief, but the Constitution gives you the authority. What am I missing?" Dunnegan, a Republican, wrote in a since deleted Facebook post.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/politics/missouri-county-official-military-coup-barack-obama/index.html
Marcussextus On November 25, 2014




Adelaide, Australia
#3New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 00:43:56
@mrmhead Said

You're not the only one fed up:
Jefferson County Recorder of Deeds Debbie Dunnegan called President Barack Obama "our domestic enemy" and suggested the U.S. Constitution would give the U.S. military the authority to oust the president in a coup d'état
"I cannot and do not understand why no action is being taken against our domestic enemy. I know he is supposedly the commander in chief, but the Constitution gives you the authority. What am I missing?" Dunnegan, a Republican, wrote in a since deleted Facebook post.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/politics/missouri-county-official-military-coup-barack-obama/index.html


From down here under the planet it was a real circus to watch, it was as if the American voters were blind to one simple fact, Obama was and is a politician , with all that that implies!
Why did anyone expect him to achieve anything , or that he'd be any more effective than any other scum-sucker?
Not that I'm implying WE are any better, you need only look at the hopeless and offensive moron WE elected as our current PM, he's worse !!
Honestly, if our pollies hadn't granted themselves immunity from the law he would be doing time for his lies and abuses of the democratic ideal!
Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019
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Saint Louis, Missouri
#4New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 00:45:48
@Marcussextus Said

From down here under the planet it was a real circus to watch, it was as if the American voters were blind to one simple fact, Obama was and is a politician , with all that that implies!
Why did anyone expect him to achieve anything , or that he'd be any more effective than any other scum-sucker?
Not that I'm implying WE are any better, you need only look at the hopeless and offensive moron WE elected as our current PM, he's worse !!
Honestly, if our pollies hadn't granted themselves immunity from the law he would be doing time for his lies and abuses of the democratic ideal!



Truth be told, and I may end up catching hell for this from some people, I always thought Obama has been more about being a celebrity than a politician.
GreenAppleKing On April 23, 2015

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, United States (general)
#5New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 01:00:59
@Eaglebauer Said

Truth be told, and I may end up catching hell for this from some people, I always thought Obama has been more about being a celebrity than a politician.


If you say nothing else on the matter, we won't pursue re-education camp.
Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019
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Saint Louis, Missouri
#6New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 01:07:58
@GreenAppleKing Said

If you say nothing else on the matter, we won't pursue re-education camp.



GreenAppleKing On April 23, 2015

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#7New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 01:18:14



Marcussextus On November 25, 2014




Adelaide, Australia
#8New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 01:18:48
@Eaglebauer Said

Truth be told, and I may end up catching hell for this from some people, I always thought Obama has been more about being a celebrity than a politician.



It sure looks like that from here, he was elected for his colouration and family as much as anything else, he seemed more a novelty item that "captured" the imagination of America, you all read into his running what you dreamed of, and fantasies rarely reflect reality, do they?
Bear in mind though that I'm half a planet away and largely relying on some highly dubious sources, the Media, the Internet was so full of a million different opinions and views that it was impossible to separate the real from the idiots and the trolls, let alone those with a barrow to push.
There's an old saw about nations getting the governments they deserve, and thatt speaks well of us all, doesn't it!
restoreone On November 27, 2020




, Ohio
#9New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 01:29:24
In 2012 only about 58% of Americans voted. It has not been stolen we have just given it away.
Marcussextus On November 25, 2014




Adelaide, Australia
#10New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 01:54:07
@restoreone Said

In 2012 only about 58% of Americans voted. It has not been stolen we have just given it away.


Indeed, that's why in my OP I said "WE have taken our eye off the ball".
Here in Oz we have compulsory voting, not that they chase dodgers much, they don't really care enough. We get a lot of what are labeled "donkey votes", those who simply tick boxes at random or screw up their votes deliberately, but I feel that even the majority of our voters are donkey voters anyway, they follow the party line unquestioningly.
It seems to me that as long as the "average" Aussie voter gets their job, two weeks annual leave and mindless pap on TV they don't give a damn who runs the country!
I'd LOVE to find a way to effectively block all TV transmissions for a couple of months, there'd be "blood on the streets" then alright!
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#11New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 22:32:42
@mrmhead Said

You're not the only one fed up:
Jefferson County Recorder of Deeds Debbie Dunnegan called President Barack Obama "our domestic enemy" and suggested the U.S. Constitution would give the U.S. military the authority to oust the president in a coup d'état
"I cannot and do not understand why no action is being taken against our domestic enemy. I know he is supposedly the commander in chief, but the Constitution gives you the authority. What am I missing?" Dunnegan, a Republican, wrote in a since deleted Facebook post.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/politics/missouri-county-official-military-coup-barack-obama/index.html


She's missing the fact that Obama is the first president since FDR to win both elections with a majority vote.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#12New Post! Oct 17, 2014 @ 22:33:29
@Eaglebauer Said

Truth be told, and I may end up catching hell for this from some people, I always thought Obama has been more about being a celebrity than a politician.


Yeah......
GreenAppleKing On April 23, 2015

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, United States (general)
#13New Post! Oct 18, 2014 @ 00:40:37
@mrmhead Said

You're not the only one fed up:
Jefferson County Recorder of Deeds Debbie Dunnegan called President Barack Obama "our domestic enemy" and suggested the U.S. Constitution would give the U.S. military the authority to oust the president in a coup d'état
"I cannot and do not understand why no action is being taken against our domestic enemy. I know he is supposedly the commander in chief, but the Constitution gives you the authority. What am I missing?" Dunnegan, a Republican, wrote in a since deleted Facebook post.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/politics/missouri-county-official-military-coup-barack-obama/index.html


The narrative has been set. From a historical perspective, the current POTUS will be known for one particular thing.

I hope to God that no harm comes to him by either coup, impeachment, or assassination attempt. He will be viewed as a marytr and the racial tensions in the US will further escalate.

I'm content to allow the POTUS another 100 games of golf to finish off his term. It's the best we can hope for.
mrmhead On about 5 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#14New Post! Oct 18, 2014 @ 00:47:13
@Eaglebauer Said

Truth be told, and I may end up catching hell for this from some people, I always thought Obama has been more about being a celebrity than a politician.


Then again - part of being a politician is being a celebrity

- but I don't disagree that there is a certain amount of "celebrity" happening

After all, in 5 years or less, he'll have another book to sell!
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#15New Post! Oct 18, 2014 @ 01:02:52
@GreenAppleKing Said

The narrative has been set. From a historical perspective, the current POTUS will be known for one particular thing.

I hope to God that no harm comes to him by either coup, impeachment, or assassination attempt. He will be viewed as a marytr and the racial tensions in the US will further escalate.

I'm content to allow the POTUS another 100 games of golf to finish off his term. It's the best we can hope for.


He will be seen as a fairly decent president.
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