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expressit On December 04, 2009




Nashville, Tennessee
#1New Post! Nov 11, 2009 @ 22:46:31
I have always liked science and history and found them interesting. There are a lot of comments about how these two subjects relate to the Bible, maybe we can talk about them here under one topic. I wish I had a lot of time to just stay here and read posts and write...but like many of you, I just don`t have a lot of extra time.

Here are a couple of things, for now...

History :

Alexander the Great

I saw that movie with...Colin Ferril?, I think...great movie!

History shows he was the son of Phillip the 2nd of Macedonia and his mothers name was Olympias, and was born at Pella in 356 B.C.E.
Although, he was not mentioned by name, his rule of the 5th world empire was fortold 2 centuries before he was born in Daniel 8:5-7.

Bible Prophecy
Daniel 8:5,7,20,21-
?A male of the goats .?.?.
proceeded to strike down the
ram and to break its two horns.?
?The ram that you saw possessing
the two horns stands for the
kings of Media and Persia. And
the hairy he-goat stands for the
king of Greece.?

Historic Fulfillment

After defeating the
Medo-Persian forces twice
in Asia Minor, Alexander?s
army pushed first to the South
and then to the East, completely
conquering the Medo-Persian
Empire.


Bible Prophecy

Ezekiel also prophecied in Ez.26:4,12-
"And your(Tyre`s) dust they will place in the very midst of the water"

History
In 332?B.C.E., Alexander
used the rubble of the old
mainland city of Tyre to build
a causeway to the island city,which he destroyed.


Bible Prophecy

?As soon as it became mighty, the great horn was broken.?
Daniel 8:8

History
In 323 B.C.E., at 32 years of age, he was stricken and died.


Bible Prophecy
Jeremiah 51:26 -
"Desolate wastes to time indefinite are what Babylon will become"

History
His plans to rebuild Babylon as his capital failed and it became a desolate waste.

Bible Prophecy
Daniel 11:4 -
"His kingdom will be broken and be divided...but not to his posterity".

History
Alexander`s heirs were murdered and the kingdom fell apart.

Bible Prophecy
Daniel 8: 8, 22
"The great horn was broken and there proceeded to come up... four instead of it".

History
By 301 B.C.E. four of Alexanders generals had taken over seperate sections of the former empire.
roBingoodfElLOW On January 06, 2010
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Over yonder, Tajikistan
#2New Post! Nov 11, 2009 @ 23:03:14
That film was awful and missed out a lot of key parts of alexanders life. Also it involved Cassander quite heavily, who the f*** was cassander, he had no involvement in alexanders life and took to the macedonian throne some time after alexanders death!
roBingoodfElLOW On January 06, 2010
Baldylocks


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Over yonder, Tajikistan
#3New Post! Nov 11, 2009 @ 23:07:40
@expressit Said

I have always liked science and history and found them interesting. There are a lot of comments about how these two subjects relate to the Bible, maybe we can talk about them here under one topic. I wish I had a lot of time to just stay here and read posts and write...but like many of you, I just don`t have a lot of extra time.

Here are a couple of things, for now...

History :

Alexander the Great

I saw that movie with...Colin Powell, I think...great movie!
He was the son of Phillip the 2nd of Macedonia and his mothers name was Olympias, and was born at Pella in 356 B.C.E.
Although, he was not mentioned by name, his rule of the 5th world empire was fortold 2 centuries before he was born in Daniel 8:5-7.

Bible Prophecy
Daniel 8:5,7,20,21-
?A male of the goats .?.?.
proceeded to strike down the
ram and to break its two horns.?
?The ram that you saw possessing
the two horns stands for the
kings of Media and Persia. And
the hairy he-goat stands for the
king of Greece.?

Historic Fulfillment

After defeating the
Medo-Persian forces twice
in Asia Minor, Alexander?s
army pushed first to the South
and then to the East, completely
conquering the Medo-Persian
Empire.


Bible Prophecy

Ezekiel also prophecied in Ez.26:4,12-
"And your(Tyre`s) dust they will place in the very midst of the water"

History
In 332?B.C.E., Alexander
used the rubble of the old
mainland city of Tyre to build
a causeway to the island city,which he destroyed.


Bible Prophecy

?As soon as it became mighty, the great horn was broken.?
Daniel 8:8

History
In 323 B.C.E., at 32 years of age, he was stricken and died.


Bible Prophecy
Jeremiah 51:26 -
"Desolate wastes to time indefinite are what Babylon will become"

History
His plans to rebuild Babylon as his capital failed and it became a desolate waste.

Bible Prophecy
Daniel 11:4 -
"His kingdom will be broken and be divided...but not to his posterity".

History
Alexander`s heirs were murdered and the kingdom fell apart.

Bible Prophecy
Daniel 8: 8, 22
"The great horn was broken and there proceeded to come up... four instead of it".

History
By 301 B.C.E. four of Alexanders generals had taken over seperate sections of the former empire.



Can we be certain this stuff was written before Alexander or added afterwards? Seems a bit too uncanny to me.
twistedup On November 12, 2009




Clearwater, Florida
#4New Post! Nov 11, 2009 @ 23:09:04
Even tho this topic is not really about a movie..I loved the movie, but that`s because I liked the actors in it. They don`t always follow facts in movies, I agree. I`m not very good at historical things..
roBingoodfElLOW On January 06, 2010
Baldylocks


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Over yonder, Tajikistan
#5New Post! Nov 11, 2009 @ 23:13:26
@twistedup Said

Even tho this topic is not really about a movie..I loved the movie, but that`s because I liked the actors in it. They don`t always follow facts in movies, I agree. I`m not very good at historical things..



It was just too cheesy and soft, i think i heard that farrel even regretted doing it.

They could have done so much better with it.
twistedup On November 12, 2009




Clearwater, Florida
#6New Post! Nov 11, 2009 @ 23:13:31
@roBingoodfElLOW Said

Can we be certain this stuff was written before Alexander or added afterwards? Seems a bit too uncanny to me.



I do know that it has already been backed up by archeology..did I spell that right?, that Bible manuscripts, the ink and paper, were much older than when Alexander the Great was living.
deal1 On May 06, 2011
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not of this earth,
#7New Post! Nov 11, 2009 @ 23:48:32
I'm not sure when each individual book of the Bible was written, and who the authors were.The only books that can be attributed to who they are named for are the Epistles in the NT. That's just my opinion.
expressit On December 04, 2009




Nashville, Tennessee
#8New Post! Nov 12, 2009 @ 01:10:12
Science -

Obviously there is just too much to write about history and science...but here is a small thing on science;

The Atom:
Everything in the Universe goes from the infinitly small to infinitly large- from atoms to galaxies, scientists are noticing that it has order.
An atom is so small, that a little toy baloon contains about 100 million, million, billion hydrogen atoms. All the atoms in one grain of sand, would make a box one cubic mile in length!

We know how our solar system works and moves...
This tiny atom is made up of protons and neurons, but some scientists who study this in depth, now believe that the protons and neurons are themselves tiny "solar systems" which consists of a core with particles fluctuating around it, which is as orderly as our solar system.
expressit On December 04, 2009




Nashville, Tennessee
#9New Post! Nov 12, 2009 @ 02:50:16
History:

There have been many world powers throughout history, but there have been 7 major ones; Alexander was Greece, which was the 5th world power. In order they are - Egypt, Assyria, Babylonian, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. It has been common throughout history, and in the Bible, to use animals, (beasts) to symbolize world powers. Britain has it`s lion, China it`s dragon, United States is the American Eagle and so on...
The wild beast mentioned in Revelation with seven heads and ten horns (Rev. 13) is just the major political governments of the Earth. Some of the heads have 2 horns because the power was split - like when Alexander went against the Medo-Persia world power. The seventh world power that came after Rome was Great Britain.

There is no way ancient Bible writers could have known on their own about Britain etc...
SparklyKatie On March 07, 2014
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Sheffield, United Kingdom
#10New Post! Nov 12, 2009 @ 02:59:04
So there's been no world power since the British Empire?

Surely America has to be counted, why not a beast with 8 heads?

Also it doesn't mention Britain specifically, if it had been, say Spain not Britain, people would be saying the 'prophecies' had no clue about Spain. Prophecies are so vague they could mean anything
Salutations75 On November 24, 2009

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Toronto, Canada
#11New Post! Nov 12, 2009 @ 03:20:34
@SparklyKatie Said

So there's been no world power since the British Empire?

Surely America has to be counted, why not a beast with 8 heads?

Also it doesn't mention Britain specifically, if it had been, say Spain not Britain, people would be saying the 'prophecies' had no clue about Spain. Prophecies are so vague they could mean anything



I'll let her defend the prophecies she brings up. But I will give you:

Isaiah 45:
Thus says the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus,
whose right hand I have grasped,
to subdue nations before him

?I will go before you
and level the exalted places,
I will break in pieces the doors of bronze
and cut through the bars of iron,
I will give you the treasures of darkness
and the hoards in secret places,
that you may know that it is I, the Lord,
the God of Israel, who call you by your name.
For the sake of my servant Jacob,
and Israel my chosen,
I call you by your name,
I name you, though you do not know me.
and to loose the belts of kings,

Isaiah lived around 740 BC and Cyrus was born 600 BC.
Over a hundred years before Cyrus was even born Isaiah prophesied that he would be a conqueror that God would use to aid Israel. Cyrus conquered Babylon (who had taken Israel captive) and allowed Israelites to return to Israel and rebuild the temple to God.

Take note of the fact that God says to the unborn Cyrus "I name you, though you do not know me."
God uses people who do not know Him at all and will never know Him to accomplish His purposes. Cyrus lived and died to accomplish God's tasks and he had no idea he was doing it.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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Here and there,
#12New Post! Nov 12, 2009 @ 03:21:36
Alexander was an attempt to capitalize off the success of Troy.

Troy rocked. Alexander sucked.
ssnot_me On February 01, 2016




big D, Texas
#13New Post! Nov 12, 2009 @ 03:31:29
speaking of prophecies... Star Trek prophesied cell phones!

Gene Roddenberry must have known the future!
boxerdc On December 18, 2012

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#14New Post! Nov 12, 2009 @ 05:00:45
@expressit Said

All the atoms in one grain of sand, would make a box one cubic mile in length!


And here I thought that they'd make a box the size of a grain of sand.
WeNowSix On January 05, 2011

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Anaheim, California
#15New Post! Nov 12, 2009 @ 05:29:21
@ssnot_me Said

speaking of prophecies... Star Trek prophesied cell phones!

Gene Roddenberry must have known the future!



d*** Tracy prophesied cell phones. Chester Gould must have known the future.

Edit: If anyone knew the future, Jules Verne knew the future. His story, In the Year 2889, mentions a from of voice recording, which suggests the use of cell phone technology.
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