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GreatestIam2 On April 05, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#1New Post! Mar 14, 2020 @ 14:55:18
People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

The real Original Sin, then and today, to most Christians, is based on this quote.

“For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Gen. 3:5).

Jesus seems to have wanted this to happen, as that would make us his brethren.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught and that Gnostic Christians have embraced.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

If Jesus wants us to know of good and evil, as a prerequisite to being born again as his brethren, it goes well with Jesus’ prediction as quoted above.

That may be why Christians sing that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan.

I am not a literal reader of this myth, but this seems to make sense. It follows then that it makes sense for Adam to ignore Yahweh’s command not to gain an education.

Thoughts?

Regards
DL
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#2New Post! Mar 14, 2020 @ 21:50:17
GreatestIam2 On April 05, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#3New Post! Mar 17, 2020 @ 18:41:40
@chaski Said

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Yep.

We all want a sugar daddy to take care of us at some point in life.

That childish propensity disappears when children grow up.

Regards
DL


Cpat92 On April 06, 2020
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Lauderhill, Florida
#4New Post! Mar 18, 2020 @ 10:10:59
@GreatestIam2 Said

People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

The real Original Sin, then and today, to most Christians, is based on this quote.

“For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Gen. 3:5).

Jesus seems to have wanted this to happen, as that would make us his brethren.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught and that Gnostic Christians have embraced.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

If Jesus wants us to know of good and evil, as a prerequisite to being born again as his brethren, it goes well with Jesus’ prediction as quoted above.

That may be why Christians sing that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan.

I am not a literal reader of this myth, but this seems to make sense. It follows then that it makes sense for Adam to ignore Yahweh’s command not to gain an education.

Thoughts?

Regards
DL


To answer the question, people can be as they desire. That is a perk of free will. They can choose to worship any god or gods they choose. They can choose to be their own gods if that's what they wanted. Some individuals within certain religions might say otherwise while others in those same religions won't say anything. Wouldn't necessarily be considered evil if one were to view themself as their own god.
Cpat92 On April 06, 2020
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Lauderhill, Florida
#5New Post! Mar 18, 2020 @ 10:18:46


For those who haven't seen the video.
GreatestIam2 On April 05, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#6New Post! Mar 18, 2020 @ 17:40:28
@Cpat92 Said

To answer the question, people can be as they desire. That is a perk of free will. They can choose to worship any god or gods they choose. They can choose to be their own gods if that's what they wanted. Some individuals within certain religions might say otherwise while others in those same religions won't say anything. Wouldn't necessarily be considered evil if one were to view themself as their own god.


Those who say nothing are moral cowards who put their tribal affiliation over their moral sense.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On April 05, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#7New Post! Mar 18, 2020 @ 17:41:16
@Cpat92 Said



For those who haven't seen the video.


Thanks for acknowledging it's worth.

Regards
DL
Cpat92 On April 06, 2020
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Lauderhill, Florida
#8New Post! Mar 20, 2020 @ 02:17:53
@GreatestIam2 Said

Those who say nothing are moral cowards who put their tribal affiliation over their moral sense.

Regards
DL


I wouldn't go that far. Those who may be silent may not know or understand what is going on. Some may not care either.

@GreatestIam2 Said

Thanks for acknowledging it's worth.

Regards
DL


It is an interesting video. I just noticed that the link was put in your original post and I wanted to make it easier for everyone to view it. It is an interesting post.
GreatestIam2 On April 05, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#9New Post! Mar 21, 2020 @ 19:33:21
@Cpat92 Said

I wouldn't go that far. Those who may be silent may not know or understand what is going on. Some may not care either.



You are kinder than I.

Silence may indeed be from ignorance, but given that morals are what religions say they are to focus on for right living, to not get informed or question and run away from educating themselves tells me that they are immoral.

Regards
DL
Cpat92 On April 06, 2020
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Lauderhill, Florida
#10New Post! Mar 22, 2020 @ 15:42:28
@GreatestIam2 Said

You are kinder than I.

Silence may indeed be from ignorance, but given that morals are what religions say they are to focus on for right living, to not get informed or question and run away from educating themselves tells me that they are immoral.

Regards
DL



Can't expect anyone to see eye to eye with you or even persuade them if you plan on being douche about it. Not wanting or not having interested in gaining certain information has nothing to do with morals.
GreatestIam2 On April 05, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#11New Post! Mar 23, 2020 @ 15:10:02
@Cpat92 Said

Can't expect anyone to see eye to eye with you or even persuade them if you plan on being douche about it. Not wanting or not having interested in gaining certain information has nothing to do with morals.


It is when morals are at issue.

I state my position and just not agreeing with the immoral thinkers makes me seem a douche to them. That is how brain dead their religions make them.

Regards
DL
Cpat92 On April 06, 2020
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Lauderhill, Florida
#12New Post! Mar 24, 2020 @ 01:09:01
@GreatestIam2 Said

It is when morals are at issue.

I state my position and just not agreeing with the immoral thinkers makes me seem a douche to them. That is how brain dead their religions make them.

Regards
DL



Some of those you are causing immoral are also those who refrain from religion. Some of them may be gnostic as well. Many of them due to their beliefs refrain from opening their mind. Being of an open mind will allow a tolerance of ideas different from the one you know. You do not have to agree to it. You do not have to like it, but the open-mindedness allows the gaining of knowledge.
GreatestIam2 On April 05, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#13New Post! Mar 24, 2020 @ 14:28:52
@Cpat92 Said

Some of those you are causing immoral are also those who refrain from religion. Some of them may be gnostic as well. Many of them due to their beliefs refrain from opening their mind. Being of an open mind will allow a tolerance of ideas different from the one you know. You do not have to agree to it. You do not have to like it, but the open-mindedness allows the gaining of knowledge.


No argument on this.

Those truths are why Gnostic Christianity has an ideology that basically demands an open mind and that is why we do not pigeon hole any god or ideology and are perpetual seekers.

Regards
DL
Cpat92 On April 06, 2020
It's all or nothing





Lauderhill, Florida
#14New Post! Mar 24, 2020 @ 16:39:12
@GreatestIam2 Said

No argument on this.

Those truths are why Gnostic Christianity has an ideology that basically demands an open mind and that is why we do not pigeon hole any god or ideology and are perpetual seekers.

Regards
DL



Well, can you say you truly have an open mind if you continuously call those who differ from you immoral? Can you say they have a close mind yet call yourself open-minded if you are quick to shut them down?
Electric_Banana On April 05, 2020




, New Zealand
#15New Post! Mar 24, 2020 @ 18:02:12
@GreatestIam2 Said

People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

The real Original Sin, then and today, to most Christians, is based on this quote.

“For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Gen. 3:5).

Jesus seems to have wanted this to happen, as that would make us his brethren.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught and that Gnostic Christians have embraced.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

If Jesus wants us to know of good and evil, as a prerequisite to being born again as his brethren, it goes well with Jesus’ prediction as quoted above.

That may be why Christians sing that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan.

I am not a literal reader of this myth, but this seems to make sense. It follows then that it makes sense for Adam to ignore Yahweh’s command not to gain an education.

Thoughts?

Regards
DL



Version 1: The children became judgemental and forgot how to love uncondtionally

Version 2: If you have a trouble pupil, make knowledge a taboo

Version 3: Now with the knowledge but still without intelligence humans set forth invoking technology and machines which destroyed them and their world

Version 4: They no longer had access to life now with the knowledge that they were fake.

Myself: I don't want to be a god; I just want clear and uninfluenced access to my instincts and intuition which might be borrowed from a higher intelligence.

Institutions and organizations will always have agendas that defy a higher wisdom (ie; Christianity back-handedly promoting conditional acceptance, elitism and encourages it's participants to ostracize those whom don't subscribe.)
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