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4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#1New Post! Dec 17, 2021 @ 19:48:24
Yesterday, 12/16/21, CNBC ran this story about Rep Nancy Pelosi (D-MD). She believes she should be able to trade stocks.

There have been reported "conflicts of interest" with Republican and Democratic Congress Members and their stock trades. The argument is because of their access to information not available to the general public they should not be allowed to trade stocks.

Proponents of the ban, mostly also Democrats, say Congress Members should be barred from trading stocks as it might affect their votes on issues. If a member held a large position in energy stocks they may be less likely to vote to impose restrictions, say environmental.

Pelosi says that Congress Members should be allowed to trade stocks like everyone else because it is part of having a free market economy. She makes the point that she has to report all her trades. If one believes that she is trading on insider information they could simply follow her trades with their own. She would be the new "Decision Moose."

What do the TSFers say about this?
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#2New Post! Dec 17, 2021 @ 20:11:16
@4d4m Said

Yesterday, 12/16/21, CNBC ran this story about Rep Nancy Pelosi (D-MD). She believes she should be able to trade stocks.

There have been reported "conflicts of interest" with Republican and Democratic Congress Members and their stock trades. The argument is because of their access to information not available to the general public they should not be allowed to trade stocks.

Proponents of the ban, mostly also Democrats, say Congress Members should be barred from trading stocks as it might affect their votes on issues. If a member held a large position in energy stocks they may be less likely to vote to impose restrictions, say environmental.

Pelosi says that Congress Members should be allowed to trade stocks like everyone else because it is part of having a free market economy. She makes the point that she has to report all her trades. If one believes that she is trading on insider information they could simply follow her trades with their own. She would be the new "Decision Moose."

What do the TSFers say about this?



So a fairly standard procedure, if you are concerned about the potential conflicts of interest relative to your investments, is to invest "blindly"... that is, you get a company to handle your investments, but "you" never get the specifics... there is a "Chinese Wall" between you and you investment company/broker.


As to this statement Pelosi says that Congress Members should be allowed to trade stocks like everyone else because it is part of having a free market economy, f*** Pelosi (and the rest of them).

As long as they get to vote on their own pay raises they are not really part of the USA's "free market economy".

Dear Pelosi,



Signed,
Chaski
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#3New Post! Dec 17, 2021 @ 23:10:23
@chaski Said

So a fairly standard procedure, if you are concerned about the potential conflicts of interest relative to your investments, is to invest "blindly"... that is, you get a company to handle your investments, but "you" never get the specifics... there is a "Chinese Wall" between you and you investment company/broker.


As to this statement Pelosi says that Congress Members should be allowed to trade stocks like everyone else because it is part of having a free market economy, f*** Pelosi (and the rest of them).

As long as they get to vote on their own pay raises they are not really part of the USA's "free market economy".

Dear Pelosi,



Signed,
Chaski


That's a good point, utilizing a brokerage that had control over one's account should eliminate that problem. Where did you get the little hand thingy from?
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




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#4New Post! Dec 18, 2021 @ 01:06:56
@4d4m Said

That's a good point, utilizing a brokerage that had control over one's account should eliminate that problem. Where did you get the little hand thingy from?



Isn't that what trump claimed was OK. He had his kids manage his investments while in office.... kids he eventually wrapped into his administration
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#5New Post! Dec 18, 2021 @ 02:01:54
@4d4m Said

That's a good point, utilizing a brokerage that had control over one's account should eliminate that problem. Where did you get the little hand thingy from?



Senior government officials (federal) get various briefings that cover things like classified information, ethics, conflicts of interest... and what to do to avoid conflicts of interest.

These briefings used to be annual for carrier bureaucrats and for presidential appointees upon being appointed.

I may or may not have been involved in providing those sorts of briefings.


Note: I say "used to"... I imagine "they" are still being presented, these breifings but I am not in a position to bet my lunch money on it.




Whether or not members of Congress get these sorts of briefings (i.e. advise) is another matter. Much of what might get a federal employee thrown in jail is fair game for members of Congress... bribery (or what amounts to bribery) comes to mind.

4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#6New Post! Dec 18, 2021 @ 09:47:24
@mrmhead Said

Isn't that what trump claimed was OK. He had his kids manage his investments while in office.... kids he eventually wrapped into his administration


Also a good point. But could we say that Trump should have sold off his businesses to become president?

Makes me think of Plato and the people with hearts of bronze, silver and gold.
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#7New Post! Dec 18, 2021 @ 16:56:10
@4d4m Said

But could we say that Trump should have sold off his businesses to become president?



"Sold"... No.

Put someone else in charge (like a temporary CEO... or board of trustees... who is/are not part of his presidential administration)... Yes.

Block all financial/operational activity from his knowledge... Yes.

Block monetary gain from conducting business with the U.S. government.... Yes.
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#8New Post! Dec 18, 2021 @ 19:00:58
As a side note, historically...in the USA.... businessmen have not made especially good presidents.

Maybe they should just stick to their companies and stocks and stay out of politics.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#9New Post! Dec 18, 2021 @ 20:48:06
This is true, of our best three presidents two were lawyers and one a naval officer.
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#10New Post! Dec 18, 2021 @ 22:36:19
@4d4m Said

This is true, of our best three presidents two were lawyers and one a naval officer.



Lincoln, FDR and...?... Kennedy or Bush (George H. W.)?.. surly not Nixon, Carter, LBJ, or Ford.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#11New Post! Dec 19, 2021 @ 02:21:23
Lincoln, FDR and JFK.
Hawkeye666 On October 17, 2023




Saint Louis, Missouri
#12New Post! Dec 19, 2021 @ 03:01:54
lawyers: roosevelt & lincoln
naval officer: kennedy
no lawyers: both bushs
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