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jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#16New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 01:52:59
@NorthernIceCat Said

I don't know about that because I thought Romneys remark about the 47% made sense. I thought he was trying to say that trying to change the minds of Obama's voters would be more difficult than persuading the independants.


It's not that 47% will vote for Obama no matter what. It's that he said 47% think they're victims and are habitually dependent on government.
NorthernIceCat On February 03, 2013




Appleton, Wisconsin
#17New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 02:17:21
@Leon Said

No.

Sure, there are 47 percent who will vote Obama (more actually).

But 47% do not feel the following:

"There are 47%... who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."




@jonnythan Said

It's not that 47% will vote for Obama no matter what. It's that he said 47% think they're victims and are habitually dependent on government.



Yes qouting the percentile that is suposedly voting for Obama may have been bad for him but, a good percentage of people who will vote for Obama seem to think the government needs to pay out more in welfare. Which I don't think is right simply stating that our infrastucture is out of date. Not to mention our failing schools. All i'm trying to say is that we should be spending our time and money elsewhere instead of on people who want more welfare.
Reviso On November 23, 2014

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#18New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 02:22:47
The welfare people can TRY for a smarter welfare disposition of capital. SO we vote for Obama that way as to develop leaders from the ranks of the unemployed. And job creation takes care of itself.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#19New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 02:23:47
@NorthernIceCat Said

Yes qouting the percentile that is suposedly voting for Obama may have been bad for him but, a good percentage of people who will vote for Obama seem to think the government needs to pay out more in welfare. Which I don't think is right simply stating that our infrastucture is out of date. Not to mention our failing schools. All i'm trying to say is that we should be spending our time and money elsewhere instead of on people who want more welfare.


You're speaking as if Obama's plan is no more money for education and infrastructure but more money for welfare. That's nonsensical.

You're setting up a pure straw man. Who are these "good percentage of people" who want more welfare spending and no more money on roads and schools?
Reviso On November 23, 2014

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#20New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 02:30:01
People don't want to move around the country in such motivation. Money is distrusted at the federal level for original thinking. Money must take care of itself by shear scarcity either for communicated ideas OR for marketed big business for the small business's. Obamacare must appeal to big business. No?
NorthernIceCat On February 03, 2013




Appleton, Wisconsin
#21New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 03:09:10
@jonnythan Said

You're speaking as if Obama's plan is no more money for education and infrastructure but more money for welfare. That's nonsensical.

You're setting up a pure straw man. Who are these "good percentage of people" who want more welfare spending and no more money on roads and schools?



That isn't exactly what I meant, but to me Obama supporters or demacrats seem to want more government control with such plans as obama care. I prefer a privatized social sector. What is a straw man?
boxerdc On December 18, 2012

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#22New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 10:29:05
@NorthernIceCat Said

Yes qouting the percentile that is suposedly voting for Obama may have been bad for him but, a good percentage of people who will vote for Obama seem to think the government needs to pay out more in welfare. Which I don't think is right simply stating that our infrastucture is out of date. Not to mention our failing schools. All i'm trying to say is that we should be spending our time and money elsewhere instead of on people who want more welfare.


Schools and infrastructure are state level issues, not federal ones.. Conservatives always want the feds to stay out of their business, unless that business is going to cost money, then they blame the feds for staying out of their business..

Same deal with personal freedoms.. As long as the personal freedoms are aligned with "christian values", they're all for them.. otherwise those freedoms aren't actually freedoms, they're "special rights".
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#23New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 16:13:06
@NorthernIceCat Said

I don't know about that because I thought Romneys remark about the 47% made sense. I thought he was trying to say that trying to change the minds of Obama's voters would be more difficult than persuading the independants.


Only makes sense if he did not tie Obama supporters as lazy & non-taxpaying cheats. Other than that.... well, no, still did not make any sense.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#24New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 16:14:38
@NorthernIceCat Said

Yes qouting the percentile that is suposedly voting for Obama may have been bad for him but, a good percentage of people who will vote for Obama seem to think the government needs to pay out more in welfare. Which I don't think is right simply stating that our infrastucture is out of date. Not to mention our failing schools. All i'm trying to say is that we should be spending our time and money elsewhere instead of on people who want more welfare.


Than by all means vote for Romney. He plans to give more to the wealthiest.
Pcptrvanion On November 10, 2014




Howe, Texas
#25New Post! Oct 26, 2012 @ 23:06:34
@Leon Said

I like this off the cuff remark better than Romney's 47%. It rings truth vs. delusion.



"Personal opinion vs documented fact" would be a more accurate comparison.
Spinkiegirl On August 18, 2018




Chicago, Illinois
#26New Post! Oct 27, 2012 @ 00:20:03
@NorthernIceCat Said

Yes qouting the percentile that is suposedly voting for Obama may have been bad for him but, a good percentage of people who will vote for Obama seem to think the government needs to pay out more in welfare. Which I don't think is right simply stating that our infrastucture is out of date. Not to mention our failing schools. All i'm trying to say is that we should be spending our time and money elsewhere instead of on people who want more welfare.



I would have to ask, can you provide some factual proof of your statements?
bob_the_fisherman On January 30, 2023
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, Angola
#27New Post! Oct 27, 2012 @ 00:25:40
@jonnythan Said

Oh man

That absolutely epic.


Are American politicians so incapable of eloquence, logical thought or rational exposition, that calling an opponent a "bulls***ter" is now considered "epic".

God bless America.
Lili On July 12, 2019
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Sunshine Land,
#28New Post! Oct 27, 2012 @ 00:43:49
@bob_the_fisherman Said

Are American politicians so incapable of eloquence, logical thought or rational exposition, that calling an opponent a "bulls***ter" is now considered "epic".

God bless America.



Ordinarily this wouldn't be an admirable thing to say. But Romney is rather extraordinary in how much he lies (even for a politician! Lol). It was something that needed to be acknowledged.
bob_the_fisherman On January 30, 2023
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#29New Post! Oct 27, 2012 @ 00:51:21
@Lili Said

Ordinarily this wouldn't be an admirable thing to say. But Romney is rather extraordinary in how much he lies (even for a politician! Lol). It was something that needed to be acknowledged.


Fair enough. I would have thought lying is mandatory in politics if one wishes to succeed. I know next to nothing about Romney apart from the fact he is a Mormon... (if that is correct). That makes him 'interesting' in my eyes - they certainly appear to have on or two controversial beliefs from what I know.

I have little interest in US politics, but think Obama is a bit of a snake - his support of the Muslim Brotherhood in places like Egypt show that, at best, he is an idiot with no idea of what Islam is (or at least, no idea of what the Muslim Brotherhood version of Islam is). At worst, he is an accomplice of those whose mission statement involves the destruction of the west. (For an account of links between Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Muslim Brotherhood's mission statement calling for the destruction of the "miserable house of the west" see https://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/07/25/Pentagon-Islamic-Adviser-Reappears-as-Political-Leader-for-Syrian-Muslim-Brotherhood-Dominated-Group ).

There is no way Obama could not know of the existence of this document, so his endorsement of Morsi, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, is 'interesting' to my mind.

What are your thoughts on recent revelations that Obama allegedly knew that the Libyan embassy was in danger, but did not intervene, and that the CIA refused to offer any assistance to the Ambassador even though the threat was imminent and known to be genuine? And, the alleged lie of Obama that he knew the attack on the Embassy was *not* linked to the film "Innocence of Muslims," but rather, had been planned months in advance?

This kind of thing intrigues me.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#30New Post! Oct 27, 2012 @ 03:09:50
It's epic because Presidents are rarely that blunt.
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