@jack 200 Said
So my friend how does perfect copy happen?
The genes are blind so your calculation is that every tiny mutation eventually leads to the perfect copy of a highly complicated leaf from a fin?
You are sat in a room for millions of years trying to make a perfect copy of a painting I have done without a clue as to what your trying to do and you say eventually you will make a perfect copy by chance.
I say you got no chance no matter how many millions of years you take.
See the mistake people make is that all lottery combinations must come up eventually when that is not the case at all.
See, once half the combinations come up the chances favour the same ones repeating and as you get closer to the 14 million the odds on the few that have not come up versus the ones that have come up mean they might never come up.
The more tiny mutations you get that go right the greater the chances that they will not get it right any further.
This is where the misunderstanding seems to be.
The first mutation is simple and the next a little harder and it keeps getting harder and that is after very few as you say tiny mutations and then it becomes impossible.
I have no idea how but I am convinced that information about the thing to be copied perfectly must be imparted to the genetic material somehow.
Even with such information the time required would only just allow for the perfect copy to be of any use to allow the species to expand because of the disguise.
It hardly matters that no one else thinks there is any possibility that information is exchanged because if it was they would know nothing about any such thing, obviously not even having considered it, not reading it from any text book.
On this site I am looking for and encouraging original thinking, the idea that repeating what one has read about without question is little more than an exercise that can be done just as easily by copying and pasting other peoples work.
The replies are very basic and constitute a basic idea about basic evolution when I am questioning extreme complicated evolution.
This stuff about only needing a few small mutations and a long time and everything is hunky dory is nowhere near the mark concerning my specific point regarding how a perfect copy can ever be made.
Nature has a standard model which is used every time and that is the simplicity most economical method.
DNA is the simplest most economical method and the main part is used for all life forms.
Hydrogen is used for star formation and the other atoms are created from that.
Simple and economic.
Perfect copy is not simple and not economic and that is not right for nature unless it has a simplistic method for getting perfect copy.
Things that work are not the luck of the draw.
What do you mean by perfect copy?
Your analogy of a painting doesn't fit, it implies the belief that both sets of genes are made from scratch and all the parts of the copy fall in place trying their best to look like the original.
This doesn't happen.
It simply is not how genes or cells or dna replicate.
You do not seem to be asking about 'complex' evolution, how animals grow camouflage is pretty basic and heavily centered around natural selection as opposed to more complicated evolutionary concepts such as gene flow.
I'm not sure what you mean by perfect copies,
Camouflaged animals are no more perfect copies of their parents as you are of yours,any deviation away from the leaf shape in the animal you are discussing would result in a negative effect on its chances of survival.
This keeps all such animals basically 'in-tune' with their surroundings.
I fail to see your point, nor why you appear quite condescending considering we are indeed discussing the very basics of evolutionary theory.