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jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#31New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:32:16
@crazychica Said
They took the baby under a false pretense


That's a pretty big claim. And completely unsubstantiated.

IQ doesn't equal common sense. I know people with normal IQs who are, literally, too stupid to care for a child.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that their reasons were "false."
Kristy69 On September 14, 2014
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#32New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:32:43
@crazychica Said

A mother had her baby taken from her after she was declared to be "too stupid" to care for her. The woman who can only be identified as Rachel has taken her case to the European Court of human rights. Rachel's daughter was born prematurely with chronic lung disease and other complications. The girl, only named as Baby K, is now 3-years-old and her mother his missed seeing her learn to crawl, walk and talk, all because she aparently lacks the intelligence needed to care for her baby. It's ridiculous. In a country where babies can be left with alcoholic or drug addict parents, how can they justify taking this baby away?

link


That is f***ing terrible.

I see plenty of unfit parents around that get to keep her kid, and by the way it sounds, she's not that stupid.



I'm really beginning to hate this world/society/humanity...
Unbarbie On April 02, 2011




Kitimat, Canada
#33New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:33:48
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And what if they had not acted, and the baby died as a result?


The baby was in ICU in hospital still when they acted. They do not go into detail of her life/finances at that time; which may have played a role in the frequency/length of her visits. (in my opinion)

Another thought I had after reading the link was: I wonder if there is jealous children/ex of the 66 year old man that fathered the baby... maybe someone who would stand to lose a portion of inheritance or something? Maybe it was the father himself that got the ball rolling
alexkidd On February 07, 2012
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#34New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:34:53
hmm,
I truely find it interesting how quickly people can form opinions.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#35New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:36:13
People, even smart people, eat up the opinions that media feeds to them.

Had this article been written with a slightly different slant, we'd have a thread congratulating the government on taking the steps necessary to save a baby from an unfit parent.
crazychica On March 13, 2011
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#36New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:37:43
@jonnythan Said

That's a pretty big claim. And completely unsubstantiated.

IQ doesn't equal common sense. I know people with normal IQs who are, literally, too stupid to care for a child.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that their reasons were "false."



They took the baby away because they claimed that she had learning difficulties. Her IQ or lack of common sense isn't the issue. It could be that she gets the child back because she doesn't have learning difficulties and then they'll take her away again but the reason that they stated is false.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#37New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:41:17
@crazychica Said

They took the baby away because they claimed that she had learning difficulties.


According to who, exactly?
crazychica On March 13, 2011
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#38New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:42:43
@jonnythan Said

People, even smart people, eat up the opinions that media feeds to them.

Had this article been written with a slightly different slant, we'd have a thread congratulating the government on taking the steps necessary to save a baby from an unfit parent.



If it turned out that she really did have learning difficulties then I would be. The fact is that they did little to verify that. Even the original psychologist has said that she has no learning difficulties. That was the stated reason for removing the child. If she doesn't have learning difficulties then they have no legal ground to stand on with the adoption thing. The reason she wasn't allowed to instruct her solicitor in court and the reason she never got the baby back is because of these "learning difficulties". That's really all I'm pissed about. They've breached her human rights and made themselves look bad again. They haven't even given the mother a chance because they've been trying to cover that up.

Like I've said, if she wins and in a few months they take the baby away because she doesn't have the capacity to care for her, then I'll support it. Until then I'll be pissed at this breach of her rights. They should have had more than psychologist verify her "condition" and if she had no learning difficulties then maybe move to the low IQ argument.
crazychica On March 13, 2011
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Aberdeen, United Kingdom
#39New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:43:44
@jonnythan Said

According to who, exactly?



Well the woman herself, the courts and a Lib Dem MP.
Unbarbie On April 02, 2011




Kitimat, Canada
#40New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:48:49
I hope the op keeps us updated on what happens in the case, I also hope there will be a positive outcome for all involved.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#41New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:54:10
@crazychica Said

Well the woman herself, the courts and a Lib Dem MP.


If you read the articles, you'll see that they quote absolutely no one besides the woman and the MP.

They both use weasel words like "it is understood that" and "Social workers first raised doubts that.."

You have to be super critical when reading these types of articles. If something is completely unattributed, there's a reason for it.
alexkidd On February 07, 2012
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#42New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 19:58:31
I don't think we can trust her quotes if she's that stupid.
chisa96 On December 29, 2014
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Out in Nature, Wisconsin
#43New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 20:01:11
this woman actually must be pretty smart, or at least have gotten some good advice to go public with this... look at us all eating this up, outraged at the child protective officials... the people who deal with their p.r. are definately feeling some pressure now to give this woman her child, and should this case go on the judge/jury will feel the public eye on them and hear everybody ranting about how this woman was treated unjustly...

god i hate the media... it makes the whole world biased to whatever side of the story will sell the best... these things arent even any of our business...
drasticaxions On June 02, 2009




Riverside, California
#44New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 20:02:25
@KulliK357 Said

Just a thought, why do they go backwards?
but really, they wouldn't do that, because homicidal sociopaths aren't easy to pick out and retards generally are.


lol

crazychica On March 13, 2011
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Aberdeen, United Kingdom
#45New Post! Jun 01, 2009 @ 20:03:12
Hey, like I said, the whole thing was aparently based on her non-existant learning difficulties. If so then they have no legal leg to stand on. If she can't adequately care for her baby then fine but they have to prove it. She would not be going to Europe if her case wasn't worth considering.
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