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jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#16New Post! Sep 01, 2006 @ 03:45:06
@treebee Said
So please, check sources, look from all angels and please think for yourselves.

I don't believe in angels.

(You know I'd be the one to make fun of the typo in that well thought out, intelligent post.)
treebee On April 13, 2015
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#17New Post! Sep 01, 2006 @ 07:09:46
@jonnythan Said
I don't believe in angels.

(You know I'd be the one to make fun of the typo in that well thought out, intelligent post.)


I couldnt remember how to spell it, i still dont know

Aww i cant stay mad at that face
digidave On May 24, 2007




Townsville, Australia
#18New Post! Sep 12, 2006 @ 21:32:16
government influence over editorial comment is an age-old problem - the propoganda machines may be more sophisticated now but the inherent decepetion is ancient - something that we're good at here in Australia (so good in fact thet we've exported this particular skill) is editorial control by the CEO - see the late Kerry Packer (PBL) and Rupert Murdoch (NewsLtd) - from what I understand of the FOX network, unsubstantiated reight-wing tirades are not just encouraged by management, they are compulsory - and here in Oz the Packer family have long had such media control that they have been able to influence the outcome of Federal elections - the political party that spurns PBL will soon find itself in the wilderness...

not sure how many truly impartial reporting networks still exist - even every individual journalist has their own bias...

I think your advice is very wise treebee - must come to our own conclusions - guess we've just got to have faith that we have access to correct information
digidave On May 24, 2007




Townsville, Australia
#19New Post! Sep 12, 2006 @ 21:33:20
@digidave Said
government influence over editorial comment is an age-old problem - the propoganda machines may be more sophisticated now but the inherent decepetion is ancient - something that we're good at here in Australia (so good in fact thet we've exported this particular skill) is editorial control by the CEO - see the late Kerry Packer (PBL) and Rupert Murdoch (NewsLtd) - from what I understand of the FOX network, unsubstantiated right-wing tirades are not just encouraged by management, they are compulsory - and here in Oz the Packer family have long had such media control that they have been able to influence the outcome of Federal elections - the political party that spurns PBL will soon find itself in the wilderness...

not sure how many truly impartial reporting networks still exist - even every individual journalist has their own bias...

I think your advice is very wise treebee - must come to our own conclusions - guess we've just got to have faith that we have access to correct information
treebee On April 13, 2015
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#20New Post! Sep 12, 2006 @ 21:36:23
Thanks I know there is some website that is absolutely impartial news. @mammothmeat< /a> uses it i must book mark it!
brainfarmer On February 09, 2007




huddersfield, United Kingdom
#21New Post! Oct 07, 2006 @ 20:16:24
i find it a bit strange in the uk the steven lawrenson murder gets massive coverage the racist murder of kriss donald in glasgow got hardly any and in terms of murders, kidnapped of the street stabbed then burnt and only 15 gets no coverage or hardly any.
bendover On November 25, 2007

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Muff, Ireland
#22New Post! Oct 07, 2006 @ 20:22:52
I don't find it to be strange at all. News reporting is a very fckle businness and if they don't think your story is sexy enough to compete with something their compeditors are leading with they'll dump you way down the pecking order.
ukraelian On November 01, 2006




southend, United Kingdom
#23New Post! Nov 01, 2006 @ 15:24:44
A genral rule I follow is that what ever the story, what ever the angle, if it involves, death, pain, emotional black mail or plain refusal of scientific progression involving religious or political views that are linked to moralistic roots or profits then its all a load of crap and very very wrong.

So what are we gonna do about it?

*link removed by mod*
ukraelian On November 01, 2006




southend, United Kingdom
#24New Post! Nov 01, 2006 @ 15:42:39
also if anyone is interested in global scientific news then subscribe to this link. It'll blow you away.

To subscribe, just send a blank email to:

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capt_rojea On May 11, 2009

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#25New Post! Nov 09, 2006 @ 03:52:04
I agree with you a kabillion % treebee, there is so much bull crap out that is put out by the media that is unreal, twisted and bent to make there gains through intimidation, fear and just plain bullying the people into thinking the sky is falling. The most I can tell, the media is for one purpose only, fear factor. with fear factor they can gain the second most important item on there agenda's and that is profit by greed. as far as I am concern there is no credible media in the USA, and if you really want to know what is going on , look out our own window. that is just one mans opinion. until next time "good night and good news" 8)
bigpete On April 20, 2008




Cardiff, United Kingdom
#26New Post! Dec 09, 2006 @ 14:25:58
@brainfarmer Said
i tend use the bbc and find it reasonably balanced but i do look at other things such as apf reuters. im a sceptic so i do tend to question everything and i do get cross when people mix fact with opinion .


I would suggest that the BBC isnt as balanced and unbiased as people might think. They are just a little more subtle in thier political leanings.
janrich617 On April 18, 2007




bend, Oregon
#27New Post! Feb 11, 2007 @ 22:42:14
Treebee your not liberial and possibly a socialist are you LOL.
vavoom On December 01, 2011




Beirut, Lebanon
#28New Post! Mar 02, 2007 @ 17:57:18
I watched the documentary "Control Room" yesterday. It was great. Funny and
sad at the same time.

Check out those links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Room
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Rushing
https://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0802-03.htm
and
https://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1110008,00.html
buffalobill90 On July 12, 2013
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#29New Post! Jun 09, 2007 @ 19:11:09
@treebee Said
I had a very interesting conversation last night about how media is very different worldwide. How News is worded, how it can be so biased by the Governments of the originating countries.

How "worldwide" we are given different priorities via our education and upbringing. Of course the government completely run our education systems, therefore we are rarely taught anything that is not our governments policy for us to learn.

My freind has been working in Japan for a year, shes going back real soon for another year. She was telling me about how the media and government work there and how there is a national ethic.

At first it sounded shocking but actually thinking about it, isnt patriotism the same thing?

Anyways my point being very similar to Doug's last week. About getting a whole story, getting opinions from both sides before drawing your own conclusions.

Reading through the Israel/Lebnanon threads i can see how media works, i can see how people have absolutely different views because geographically they are a long way away from each other and they are subjected to different media.

I know quite a few people on here DO take a look at the news in asia, africa, americas, australasia, europe and can draw thier own conclusions from this.

All i really want to say is, in another part of the world the same story can be told in a very different way. So please, check sources, look from all angels and please think for yourselves.


"How News is worded, how it can be so biased by the Governments of the originating countries" - I think it's the other way around. The media has become so powerful in swaying the minds of the masses, it has huge power over government policy and politics. The worst thing is, media organisations aren't democratically elected, yet they have more power over people than governments.
vavoom On December 01, 2011




Beirut, Lebanon
#30New Post! Jun 10, 2007 @ 15:50:49
@buffalobill90 Said
The media has become so powerful in swaying the minds of the masses,
it has huge power over government policy and politics.


True, the media is very powerful in swaying the minds of the masses. But it does not have
any power over governments. The only power it has is maybe being kind of a watchdog.
Watching and criticizing but also praising (fox news yuk stuff is an example).

@buffalobill90 Said
The worst thing is, media organisations aren't democratically elected,
yet they have more power over people than governments.


They do not have 'power' over people. They can just shift the views of people on a certain
situation. There are so many sources that you cannot look at one. IMO they equate each
other. One is pro, the other is against. You combine the two and make up your mind.
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