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treebee On April 13, 2015
Government Hooker

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London, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Jul 25, 2006 @ 12:12:21
I had a very interesting conversation last night about how media is very different worldwide. How News is worded, how it can be so biased by the Governments of the originating countries.

How "worldwide" we are given different priorities via our education and upbringing. Of course the government completely run our education systems, therefore we are rarely taught anything that is not our governments policy for us to learn.

My freind has been working in Japan for a year, shes going back real soon for another year. She was telling me about how the media and government work there and how there is a national ethic.

At first it sounded shocking but actually thinking about it, isnt patriotism the same thing?

Anyways my point being very similar to Doug's last week. About getting a whole story, getting opinions from both sides before drawing your own conclusions.

Reading through the Israel/Lebnanon threads i can see how media works, i can see how people have absolutely different views because geographically they are a long way away from each other and they are subjected to different media.

I know quite a few people on here DO take a look at the news in asia, africa, americas, australasia, europe and can draw thier own conclusions from this.

All i really want to say is, in another part of the world the same story can be told in a very different way. So please, check sources, look from all angels and please think for yourselves.
Shug On March 17, 2011




Dewsbury/Leeds, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Jul 25, 2006 @ 12:19:13
Thinking for yourself is a long lost art...
BabyRS On February 14, 2015




, Singapore
#3New Post! Jul 25, 2006 @ 12:41:40
Couldn't agree with you more.

I find that many people unwittingly get influenced by the media. Sometimes it's hard to create a personal opinion when we're constantly exposed to reports generated by the local media, which may be bound by their own internal red tape and agenda. Especially in cases whereby the government has the 'silent' final say in a lot of matters in relation to the country, to base our opinion and viewpoints simply on these reports would be akin to letting ourselves be dictated on what to think and believe.

There are different and varied styles of reporting events, but to put it mildly, we can never be sure that its told the way the events transpired... more so to expect the local media to give unbiased reports from a stand alone, neutral viewpoint.

For example, Country A has always had great relations with Country B, and would not think twice about rallying behind this country and giving support as and when is needed. This 'relationship' needs to be maintained at all costs - perhaps for trade, resources or political gains. One day, Country B decides to declare war on Country C. Chances are, the general response and media reports in Country A in relation to the war will tilt in favour of Country B.

We have to realize the power of the press. Journalists are often so good at crafting stories and manipulating words, that these not-so-neutral views will be glossed over and dished out to the general public, looking simply like a droning report of the events as it unfolds. Never underestimate the power of words coming from good writers - it can affect the mind in ways that we never thought possible, and very easily, as well. We are lulled into believing what we are made to believe.

Always keep an open mind when it comes to worldwide news coming from the media, especially when politics are involved. Mass communication is a handy tool - it is perhaps the closest the 'people behind the scenes' can get to 'controlling' a country's state of mind.
treebee On April 13, 2015
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London, United Kingdom
#4New Post! Jul 25, 2006 @ 14:51:48
just for info, here are the sites that i use for news

https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/
https://news.bbc.co.uk/
https://www.kommersant.com/
https://www.hindu.com/thehindu/
https://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/index.html
https://today.reuters.co.uk/news/news.aspx?WTmodLoc=NewsArt-Top1-BreadCrumb-2
https://www.atimes.com/
https://www.wnafrica.com/
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/default.stm
https://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/
https://www.news.com.au/

there are so many sources out there thats just a few!
steraw04 On December 12, 2007




Toronto, Canada
#5New Post! Jul 29, 2006 @ 10:36:43
Thats a very good point. Especially as a lot of people on the site do just find one story on one news site and run off with it without knowing the full story.

Its very difficult to have truly supported strong views for any news or media situation. Reporters are meant to record events with an unbiased mind. But, a mind cannot remain unbiased if it is in the middle of a war zone.

The best thing to do is to not have strong opinions to begin with. Then eventually build on them with time. Pulling together some form of argument towards an opinion, that with quite a few facts, no longer may be just an opinion.

Something rather interesting to note. The BBC during the lebanon/israel conflict has had very different reporting techniques. Over the last week, reports from and on lebanon have been nearly 4 times as long then the israel reports. Could this have an effect on the public's opinions? Or is it simply the fact that, damage and destruction in lebanon will sell more than the little damage being caused in israel?

Thats just an example of how opinions have to be made very carefully.
newwealth On November 28, 2006




Little Rock, Arkansas
#6New Post! Jul 31, 2006 @ 08:36:41
@treebee Said
just for info, here are the sites that i use for news

https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/
https://news.bbc.co.uk/
https://www.kommersant.com/
https://www.hindu.com/thehindu/
https://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/index.html
https://today.reuters.co.uk/news/news.aspx?WTmodLoc=NewsArt-Top1-BreadCrumb-2
https://www.atimes.com/
https://www.wnafrica.com/
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/default.stm
https://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/
https://www.news.com.au/

there are so many sources out there thats just a few!


I noticed that most of these are british/uk. None seem to be American .. that is GOOD, LOL. I've held since 1991 that the mainstream American news is nothing less than propaganda and I use many different news sources as well. At one time (as short a time ago as twenty years) American news sources were just that .. news. Now they are opinion and propaganda. I believe that the news media (all countries included) is just as responsible as politics is for many wars and deaths going on around our globe. I don't trust any of them anymore. However, I do tend to trust the BBC/UK sources more than the American sources because when I do my resource, I can find more corrobaration on what those sources report than what the American sources do.

It saddens me that this country (the USA) is not what it was 35 years ago. We were honorable then. Trusted. But over the past two decades or so we've lost that credibility and I believe its due to our media reporting and so called uncensored news. Believe me, it is censored in some way or another before it ever reaches the front page. And, in some case, many cases, matter of fact, the editors and reporters are not using credible sources and later have to print retractions .. however, the damage, by that time is already done.
treebee On April 13, 2015
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London, United Kingdom
#7New Post! Jul 31, 2006 @ 10:09:02
@newwealth Said
I noticed that most of these are british/uk. None seem to be American .. that is GOOD, LOL. I've held since 1991 that the mainstream American news is nothing less than propaganda and I use many different news sources as well. At one time (as short a time ago as twenty years) American news sources were just that .. news. Now they are opinion and propaganda. I believe that the news media (all countries included) is just as responsible as politics is for many wars and deaths going on around our globe. I don't trust any of them anymore. However, I do tend to trust the BBC/UK sources more than the American sources because when I do my resource, I can find more corrobaration on what those sources report than what the American sources do.

It saddens me that this country (the USA) is not what it was 35 years ago. We were honorable then. Trusted. But over the past two decades or so we've lost that credibility and I believe its due to our media reporting and so called uncensored news. Believe me, it is censored in some way or another before it ever reaches the front page. And, in some case, many cases, matter of fact, the editors and reporters are not using credible sources and later have to print retractions .. however, the damage, by that time is already done.


i dont know what news sources in the USA are credible.
newwealth On November 28, 2006




Little Rock, Arkansas
#8New Post! Jul 31, 2006 @ 10:15:57
@treebee Said
i dont know what news sources in the USA are credible.


LOL. As far as I know .. NONE!! heheheheh. The news media in the United States is "owned" by only seven corporations. I fancy myself to be a pretty good internet researcher, but I've not been able to "break" into which individuals this corporate ownership translates to, but I know better than to think that seven corporations would give us an "impartial" view of news, heheheheh
pissyjoey On January 21, 2007




Midwest City, Oklahoma
#9New Post! Aug 15, 2006 @ 07:09:37
Wow. I haven't been on here in awhile. Things have changed. You all seem to be more aware than the last group of News and Politics regulars. Not you treebee; you were always more in-tune than most others on this forum.
niklimbo On September 13, 2006

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Doncaster on me, United Kingdo
#10New Post! Aug 20, 2006 @ 02:38:08
geez louise do people have opinions
i was just going to go on north korea take s*** from no one
like america they were all like
s***r we can do wahtever the f*** we want
like check this out
check this out
hey hey north korea what you doing with missiles what you doing
and north korea just gos
yeah we got them want to see them closer
and america
what happened
ran off
ran off
i dont even know if this is what this thinmgs about but
what you gonna do
treebee On April 13, 2015
Government Hooker

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London, United Kingdom
#11New Post! Aug 20, 2006 @ 03:01:57
@niklimbo Said
geez louise do people have opinions
i was just going to go on north korea take s*** from no one
like america they were all like
s***r we can do wahtever the f*** we want
like check this out
check this out
hey hey north korea what you doing with missiles what you doing
and north korea just gos
yeah we got them want to see them closer
and america
what happened
ran off
ran off
i dont even know if this is what this thinmgs about but
what you gonna do


WTF are you on about?
brainfarmer On February 09, 2007




huddersfield, United Kingdom
#12New Post! Aug 21, 2006 @ 09:00:09
i tend use the bbc and find it reasonably balanced but i do look at other things such as apf reuters. im a sceptic so i do tend to question everything and i do get cross when people mix fact with opinion .
brainfarmer On February 09, 2007




huddersfield, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Aug 24, 2006 @ 10:23:39
just been listening to a programme on the radio about army recruiters in america scarey stuff they are like high pressure salesmen with the right to go to every american high school to get recruits they have quotas to meet. there was a bit were the recruiter was trying to sign up a 17 year old with adhd without breaking the rules.
it was a great bit of media reportage made me realise how different we are from america
dujac On May 22, 2012




Hot Springs, Arkansas
#14New Post! Aug 27, 2006 @ 21:43:39
and the difference between iran and britain?

suicide bombers?

journalists in jail?

chopped heads?

vow to destroy isreal?
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