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Leon On March 30, 2024




San Diego, California
#1New Post! Jul 31, 2019 @ 19:04:46
Solve:

8÷2(2+2)=?
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#2New Post! Jul 31, 2019 @ 19:57:58
16

Should I share the explanation?
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#3New Post! Jul 31, 2019 @ 20:04:04
@chaski Said

16

Should I share the explanation?



Wouldn't PEMDAS make it 1 ?

(2+2) = 4

assume 2(4) means 2*4 = 8

and
2*4 before 8 / (2*4)
?


Edit: Nevermind - Left to Right
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#4New Post! Jul 31, 2019 @ 20:10:24
@mrmhead Said

Wouldn't PEMDAS make it 1 ?

(2+2) = 4

assume 2(4) means 2*4 = 8

and
2*4 before 8 / (2*4)
?


Edit: Nevermind - Left to Right



No. You started out right, but got the multiplication/division wrong.

In PEDMAS multiplication & division are "equal" in terms of priority, as are addition & subtraction.

So... yes, you start with the function inside the parentheses... but then you work the problem left to right.

P > Parentheses first
E > Exponents (ie Powers and Square Roots, etc.)
MD > Multiplication and Division (left-to-right)
AS > Addition and Subtraction (left-to-right)

So,

8÷2(2+2)=

8÷2(4)=

4(4)= 16
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#5New Post! Jul 31, 2019 @ 20:15:33
@mrmhead Said


Edit: Nevermind - Left to Right


Sorry... I missed your "edit".

No problem though, I have an auditor friends who gets these things wrong all the time.

I don't use him for either my non-profit nor my taxes.
Leon On March 30, 2024




San Diego, California
#6New Post! Aug 01, 2019 @ 15:31:27
@mrmhead Said

Wouldn't PEMDAS make it 1 ?

(2+2) = 4

assume 2(4) means 2*4 = 8

and
2*4 before 8 / (2*4)
?


Edit: Nevermind - Left to Right


16. If you use PEMDAS. However, others learned BODMAS (brackets first), which would result in an answer of 1.

Point being, there is no definite answer - it just depends on which you were taught and adhere by in terms of order of operations.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#7New Post! Aug 01, 2019 @ 17:17:17
@chaski Said

No. You started out right, but got the multiplication/division wrong.

In PEDMAS multiplication & division are "equal" in terms of priority, as are addition & subtraction.

So... yes, you start with the function inside the parentheses... but then you work the problem left to right.

P > Parentheses first
E > Exponents (ie Powers and Square Roots, etc.)
MD > Multiplication and Division (left-to-right)
AS > Addition and Subtraction (left-to-right)

So,

8÷2(2+2)=

8÷2(4)=

4(4)= 16


I am pretty sure that 2 times 4 = 8
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#8New Post! Aug 01, 2019 @ 17:34:20
@Erimitus Said

I am pretty sure that 2 times 4 = 8


Ahhh - but what is 4 times 2?!


.. the problem is:

Do you divide 8 by 2 then multiply by 4

Or do you multiply 2 times 4 then divide 8 by that number

The "Left-to-Right" rule clarifies that

8 / 2 first, then multiply by 4
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#9New Post! Aug 01, 2019 @ 19:02:04
@mrmhead Said

Ahhh - but what is 4 times 2?!


.. the problem is:

Do you divide 8 by 2 then multiply by 4

Or do you multiply 2 times 4 then divide 8 by that number

The "Left-to-Right" rule clarifies that

8 / 2 first, then multiply by 4


-----8/2(4) = 8/8 That is the way Sister Mary Elephant taught it. No one ever disagreed with Sister without sever knuckle damage.
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#10New Post! Aug 01, 2019 @ 19:11:29
@Erimitus Said

-----8/2(4) = 8/8 That is the way Sister Mary Elephant taught it. No one ever disagreed with Sister without sever knuckle damage.



Well, if you wanted to multiply 2x4 First, then you should have put it in parenthesis!
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#11New Post! Aug 01, 2019 @ 19:21:32
@mrmhead Said

Well, if you wanted to multiply 2x4 First, then you should have put it in parenthesis!



I want to remove parentheses first

Don't make me call Sister
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#12New Post! Aug 01, 2019 @ 23:40:05
@Leon Said

16. If you use PEMDAS. However, others learned BODMAS (brackets first), which would result in an answer of 1.

Point being, there is no definite answer - it just depends on which you were taught and adhere by in terms of order of operations.



Incorrect.

"Brackets" and "Parentheses" are the same thing.

So you do what is inside the Brackets, or parentheses if you prefer that word, then you follow go to the "division/multiplication", or "multiplication/division.

Since those have equal priority, you work the problem from left to right.


So... Inside the Brackets>>> (2+2)= 4

Now working left to right>>> 8÷2= 4

Now do the multiplication >>> 4(4)= 16
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#13New Post! Aug 01, 2019 @ 23:49:37
Bodmas rule, if an expression contains brackets ((), {}, []) we have to first solve or simplify the bracket followed by of (powers and roots etc.), then division, multiplication, addition and subtraction from left to right.

B > Brackets first
O > Orders (i.e. Powers and Square Roots, etc.)
DM > Division and Multiplication (left-to-right)
AS > Addition and Subtraction (left-to-right)
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#14New Post! Aug 02, 2019 @ 00:04:49
BTW if you google it, you get the correct answer:

8÷2(2+2)=

16
Leon On March 30, 2024




San Diego, California
#15New Post! Aug 02, 2019 @ 02:14:44
@chaski Said

Bodmas rule, if an expression contains brackets ((), {}, []) we have to first solve or simplify the bracket followed by of (powers and roots etc.), then division, multiplication, addition and subtraction from left to right.

B > Brackets first
O > Orders (i.e. Powers and Square Roots, etc.)
DM > Division and Multiplication (left-to-right)
AS > Addition and Subtraction (left-to-right)


You’re right, it’s the other way around.

If you use the PEMDAS method, the order of the equation is Parenthesis, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction. But if you were raised on the BODMAS method, then the order is Brackets, Orders, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction.

At least that’s what the news articles are saying about this equation.

But I think you are right in that it’s not sequential like that. MD is whichever is first, going left to right, as is AS, and DM.
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