Martin / Zimmerman

After taking a severe public spanking for twisting, altering, and lying about evidence most of the alphabet "news" media dropped the story about Martin / Zimmerman. Now that the election is front page some have taken to late night news shows to release their corrections.

A couple nights ago ABC Nightline ran a story about the evidence in this case. They showed the actual police photos and police reports.
They played multiple 9-1-1 tapes (many more than I had heard previously).
- photos from inside the squad car showing Mr. Zimmerman's bloody nose.
- police report of Mr. Zimmerman's swelling, broken nose and two black eyes.
- detailed police photos of cuts on the back of Mr. Zimmerman's bleeding head.
- police report of the interview with Mr. Martin's father. When the police played the 9-1-1 tape of the cries for help the father told police that this was NOT his son.
- later (when the story became political) Martin's family hired a lawyer who arranged for a public playing of the tape at the Mayor's office. Then the story changed and the father claimed that the voice WAS his son.

ABC still insists on using a racial component in this report.
They no longer call Mr. Zimmerman "White". Now they refer to him as "half Hispanic". How about the fact that he's 1/8 Black? How about leaving racism out of the story and focus on the facts?

A self-appointed Neighborhood nanny showed bad judgement and approached a stranger. An altercation occurred and we will never know all the details of that confrontation. Witnesses and ALL the physical evidence show that Mr. Zimmerman then started to walk away but was attacked by a rash young man (possibly angry over the confrontation). ALL the eye-witnesses tell the same story. Mr. Zimmerman was laying on the ground while Mr. Martin was on top beating him. Mr. Zimmerman suffered a severe beating during which he fired his weapon once at close range. I've not seen the evidence but several sources claim that young Mr. Martin had injuries in two places. The gunshot and the broken skin on his knuckles.

A justifiable shooting? That is for a jury to decide.
Many claim that Mr. Zimmerman should be held responsible because he initiated the confrontation. Others point to the fact that the confrontation was over and Mr. Zimmerman was walking away when Mr. Martin attacked.

Two hot-heads and a gun...not a good mix.

Do we really need yet another thread on this?

Does truth bother you?

The other threads are over-run with racism and political non-sense.
I just wanted to get all the facts posted at once.

What proof is there that Zimmerman was walking away and attacked by Martin? Haven't heard that before, not that I've been following the story. It sounds like something that could only be said by a witness, and as far as I know, there were no real witnesses to this. If someone clearly saw the whole ordeal, there wouldn't be these big arguments.

I would like to see 'just the facts' too.
But ... everyone has their bias.
Guess if we have all these threads about racism and religion, we can have another about Zimmerman.

*** Couldn't agree more and that is what JUSTICE should all about.

To be honest I'm more bothered about there being more than half a dozen threads on the same old news story in the same forum. I don't care about the content, it's just the equivalent of beating a dead horse.

I don't want to have to block the news forum but if it's going to just be the Zimmerman show then there's no point.

Hear what you are saying, Sister. It does get old after awhile. I have 'been there, done that' referencee racism threads --- when a new one pops up, once you've been through a few, all you can do is groan, thinking -- here we go again.

It's just ... sometimes, someone feels they have to put another spin on something, one that is being blocked or ignored on the many other threads of that samee topic.

It was witnesses as Pcp said.

BUT....even if he hadn't walked away, Zim didn't initiate the fight and was on the ground being pummeled by St. Trevon, who, btw, had drugs in his system.



Bias here is MSM BS. They're the ones retracing their steps after the actual facts you wanted have been presented. If you'll remember, the cooler heads at the beginning of this controlled whatever biases they had and argued to wait for the evidence. Rabble rousing race baiters and the MSM on the other hand ........

Ahhh... so you are one of the witnesses that will be testifying in the trial.

You know for a fact , as an eyewitness, that "Zim didn't initiate the fight".

That is what ALL the eye-witnesses are saying.

Really.

I thought there were no eyewitnesses to the shooting, and that all the witnesses "heard" some stuff, or "saw" stuff after the shooting.

I guess I missed the part where TPT was an eyewitness to the fight and the shooting.

I also missed the part were anyone was an eyewitness to the fight and the shooting.

I guess this will be an easy case when TPT and the other "eye-witnesses" testify to what they saw.

If no one saw what actually happened, and there doesn't seem to be anybody that did, then there are no true witnesses. Even if some people heard some stuff, what we hear is very unreliable, especially if people are fighting. It can be really hard to tell one person from another when they're trading punches or rolling around on the ground.

Also, hearing is very susceptible to being changed. Our memories of sounds tend to be bad and can be distorted after the fact. Also, what we hear can be misleading and paint a completely different picture than what actually occurred. In other words, a person that heard part of the skirmish isn't a very credible witness.

You missed is because nobody said it. Your hyperbole betrays your blindfolded bias and reveals a total lack of credibility. Have a nice day.