We are pretty much singing from the same hymn sheet here, but your previous comments were badly worded and misleading (to me at least)
What I did was state that some argue that abiogenesis itself is evolutionary, and therefore creation itself is an evolutionary process. But it doesn't occur all by itself. In the case of abiogenesis, several non living things needed to already exist. The amino acids present in the primordial oceans, and heat and / or electricity from lightning storms. The amino acids and heat were not living organisms but they had potential. That potential was unlocked over a period of time, by the evolutionary process once the separate parts came together.
Try working with a couple of definitions here:
Creation: The action or process of bringing something into existence (eg: Life)
Evolution: The gradual development of something.
If the amino acids present in the primordial seas were catalysed by heat or electricity, to become simple cells, then an evolutionary process took place. Those amino acids had their potential - as the building blocks of protiens - to become living organisms in the forms of simple cells that contained a genetic code.
An action or process brought something into existence (creation) by the gradual development of life (evolution).
Of course, that doesn't explain diversity, which is another aspect of evolution.
But imagine this: Once creation had taken place, these simple organisms could not diversify easily because of their environment. The warm sea was too benign and unvarying an environment to stimulate biodiversity without another factor becoming present.
One theory is that, as the simple organisms were now living, they needed energy to survive and reproduce. They did this by consuming other cells as food by some primitive absorption process.
Now imagine the genetic code of one organism being absorbed into the body of another organism. At some point it is possible that the feeding organism was able to read the code of the absorbed organism and discover that the code has characteristics that are beneficial to it. Instead of simply 'feeding', it accepts the new code and when it next reproduces, the two genetic codes have merged...... diversified to become stronger and enhance its chances of survival.
This organism now realises (not on a conscious level of course) that absorption of other species genetic code can strengthen it. And so it goes on. Over time, becoming stronger and more diverse with every different genetic code it absorbs into its own structure, and passes on through reproduction.
Yep... it's another theory, but it would work. This would explain how different species evolved first, in the primordial oceans, the most successful surviving and those that didn't, becoming extinct.
All this from basic amino acids.
Some argue that there is too much chance involved, but it is impossible to know how many 'hits' occurred over millions of years and countless reproductions of basic cells. There would be billions of possible combinations of genetic codes, but those who did survive and prosper, once established, were able to evolve into creatures that could leave the sea, and, once out of the benign environment of the ocean, would have had to evolve further to survive in the harsher shore / land conditions.
These things could only have occurred with the basic elements in existence to start with.
The creation alluded to in the Bible is not possible.
Jul 24, 2020 @ 17:29:00
