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4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#31New Post! May 24, 2020 @ 23:16:19
I know what Joe should do, drink a beer and read the New Republic . The link is to an article entitled "Rebuilding the Constition." It talks about all the branches of the federal government and the Bill of Rights. It's a long read but a really good one.
GeneticAnomaly On May 25, 2020
Marvellous, simply m





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#32New Post! May 24, 2020 @ 23:34:46
A view from the other side of the pond, anyone but Trump!

Biden fits that bill.
Ratty On August 10, 2020




So Cal, California
#33New Post! May 24, 2020 @ 23:46:56
@darkman666 Said

anyone thought about now and before the next election, even in november.

joe could be arrest for sex harassment or more charges, if a judge issue his arrest. not bozo, joe only senate, without bozo's protection. what happen joe in jail waiting for trial ?

what would democrat party next, who would they pick, it probably elizabeth or bernie? do they want really a democrat woman candidate?



The way Minka went after Joe in that interview I wonder if the winds are shifting.
mrmhead On about 10 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#34New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 00:17:56
@darkman666 Said

anyone thought about now and before the next election, even in november.

joe could be arrest for sex harassment or more charges, if a judge issue his arrest. not bozo, joe only senate, without bozo's protection. what happen joe in jail waiting for trial ?

what would democrat party next, who would they pick, it probably elizabeth or bernie? do they want really a democrat woman candidate?


As long as he's not convicted by then ...
mrmhead On about 10 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#35New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 00:23:43
@darkman666 Said

anyone thought about now and before the next election, even in november.

joe could be arrest for sex harassment or more charges, if a judge issue his arrest. not bozo, joe only senate, without bozo's protection. what happen joe in jail waiting for trial ?

what would democrat party next, who would they pick, it probably elizabeth or bernie? do they want really a democrat woman candidate?


If something came up with Joe, the passionate Bernie supporters would holler for Sanders.


.... However, if roles were reversed, they would say the nomination is being stolen again....

(warning, trigger ahead)

Maybe HILLARY would step in to accept the nomination
darkman666 On about 4 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#36New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 00:38:21
@mrmhead Said

If something came up with Joe, the passionate Bernie supporters would holler for Sanders.


.... However, if roles were reversed, they would say the nomination is being stolen again....

(warning, trigger ahead)

Maybe HILLARY would step in to accept the nomination


it would be interesting that they choose warren, and warren choose bernie as vice president.
chaski On about 13 hours ago
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#37New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 00:50:02
@4d4m Said

I know what Joe should do, drink a beer and read the New Republic . The link is to an article entitled "Rebuilding the Constition." It talks about all the branches of the federal government and the Bill of Rights. It's a long read but a really good one.



Interesting article thanks.

So if we’re going to pretend like Biden wins, as a starting point he will have to win by a sizable margin... possibly even a landslide to make his presidency “legitimate” enough to get anything done.

And what I mean by legitimate is that if it’s a close election Trump, Trump’s fans and the rest of the Republican Party will claim that it was rigged election… Voter fraud… Etc. and go back to the way it was with Obama with republicans spending all their time blocking anything and everything regardless if it is good or bad.

In addition the Democrats will have to keep control of the H.R., and not lose any more seats in the Senate… And preferably gain seats in the Senate…

Otherwise it’s all for not as McConnell will block anything and everything for as long as he can because that’s just what he does.

Really the best hope in a Biden presidency is to just bring things back to some sort of level of “normality”… No major changes, no sweeping upheaval, just “normal” politics, which we have not seen in at least a decade or more.... Maybe even back as far as Newt Gingrich his day.maybe even back as far as Newt Gingrichhis day.
darkman666 On about 4 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#38New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 01:33:19
interesting, if this would happen if there were a black candidate in any third party that available during the president election. in the third party, a black man or woman will win, if blacks are second minority in america. if 39% percent of blacks didn't vote in 2016. could image all blacks in america vote a black candidate in third party?
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




4dforum.org,
#39New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 05:31:59
"So if we’re going to pretend like Biden wins, as a starting point he will have to win by a sizable margin... possibly even a landslide to make his presidency “legitimate” enough to get anything done."

He'd have to win by at least 3 million votes just to tie it up

Wouldn't it be weird if the "deep state" controlled both parties?
Ratty On August 10, 2020




So Cal, California
#40New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 05:41:07
@4d4m Said

"So if we’re going to pretend like Biden wins, as a starting point he will have to win by a sizable margin... possibly even a landslide to make his presidency “legitimate” enough to get anything done."

He'd have to win by at least 3 million votes just to tie it up

Wouldn't it be weird if the "deep state" controlled both parties?



Trump won by 76k votes I think it was. The trump crowd needs to dial back the hubris a bit..

It ain't in the bag.
gakINGKONG On about 4 hours ago




, Florida
#41New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 12:16:58
@Ratty Said

Trump won by 76k votes I think it was. The trump crowd needs to dial back the hubris a bit..

It ain't in the bag.



The Biden Trump debates need to happen.
mrmhead On about 10 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#42New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 13:41:22
@Ratty Said

Trump won by 76k votes I think it was. The trump crowd needs to dial back the hubris a bit..

It ain't in the bag.



And he had the biggest inauguration crowd ever PERIOD

... at least since Abraham Lincoln


----
I think the more accurate way to put it is that trump won with 3 million votes less.
chaski On about 13 hours ago
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#43New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 14:25:25
@4d4m Said


He'd have to win by at least 3 million votes just to tie it up


Yes.

@4d4m Said


Wouldn't it be weird if the "deep state" controlled both parties?


That certainly is one of the conspiracy theories; Trilateral Commission and all that...

@Ratty Said

Trump won by 76k votes I think it was.



Trump won by 77 Electoral College votes (304 to 227), but was roughly 3 million votes less in terms of the popular vote.
chaski On about 13 hours ago
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#44New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 15:46:05
@gakINGKONG Said

The Biden Trump debates need to happen.



Why?

Do you honestly think it is going to change anyone's mind?
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




4dforum.org,
#45New Post! May 25, 2020 @ 16:50:14
The Electoral College comes from the original debate about Democracy. That is; are people really smart enough to rule themselves? There are little bits plugged in to our political system that allows individuals to step in and make a change. The fillibuster for instance.
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