Israel broke cease-fire not Hamas you fell victom to Israel propoganda if u think

Hmm. Interesting. They do fit the criteria for terrorism but I think they are a bit different. Terrorists usually tend to target large masses of people as a method to spread fear. Israel uses actual force... so in a sense, maybe but that does not mean Israel's and Hamas's actions are equal. Israel is trying to suppress Palestinian dissent while Hamas is trying to perpetuate that dissent. Plus, Israel did not target large masses of people for terrorism.

Look, I do not support Israel. I know that they have done some acts that may be frowned upon but the international community cannot do anything about it until Hamas changes. It would be very difficult to change Israeli mentality towards Hamas. They have the military power to do whatever they want. Recognizing this, Hamas should make the change come on its side. If it doesn't, then it does not have the interest of the people at heart.

I'm afraid that Israel is renound for its ability to collectively punish the Palestinian people, the article you read on sound terrorism?

They consistently target the only electricity station of Gaza city and the only water plant.

the economic blockade not for weapons but medecine,food and water.

I believe the Onus is on the occupier not the occupied!

Ok, ok. I concede on that point. But still, looking at the circumstances, I think Hamas should try to change.

both sides must change if a real peace is to be achieved. The formula required has not yet been discovered and it is sure to be extremely complicated, several concessions being necessary for the formula to even be started.

The most important victim are the people, the People of Israel enjoy Democracy and there god given rights, the Palestinian people have those rights restricted by orders of the government of Israel.

The people of Israel suffer from a back lash of terrorist activity from the people it occupies due to its governments actions.

The Palestinians in turn suffer double what they already suffer meaning they find them selves in a humanitarian crisis.

Anyway good discussion, as productive as they get on TFS! goodnight take care.

Good Night

How much land is really involved who wants what.
This bulls*** pardon the expression goes back to pre-ancient history and they're cousins is that true?

The land it concerns is the west bank, all of the Gaza strip aka no check points , buffer zones.

Farming land and houses( they were bull dosed ) there " security fence " carved through.

and eastern Jerusalem.

This is what is necessary for the creation of a Palestinian state.

The Israeli settlers want all the land.
The Israeli Government want to keep what they have.
The Hamas and Fatah want a return the 1967 or preferbly 1948 partition lines.
The International community represented by the U.N.wants a return to 1967 partition lines.

well The Arabic word for Jew would translate to Cousin. The relationship of jews and Muslims in that region were up and down, but most recently before Zionism they coexisted peacefully.

The Arabs and the Jews both came from the same tribe . The Semites.

wow, you really don't like Israel

I never have supported colonial rule. I also despise my countrys colonial past.

I do not however hate the Israeli people or Israeli human right activists or even the Israeli settlers( its not my fault there religious fanatics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcmjR-cVu8w&feature=related

I also didn't say anything that could be perceived as bias in what you quoted me on.
Those are the facts, if you see Israel in negative light then maybe those are your views?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXq57XK2L0A&NR=1- Israeli soldiers use Palestinian children as human shields , caught on camera. Is it wrong and bias of me to be talking about these important issues?