Is Islam a religion of peace?

@chaski Said

Yes.. @patriotic should do that... however it would not be fully accurate. I could give a long winded answer, but will just quote Jesus.

Jesus, ""Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

>>> That is, Jesus was not changing the laws in the Old Testament... all the stoning of people who violate the law, hate for homosexuals, etc. <<<

Note: Yes, some will point to the story of the prostitute.... but Jesus didn't change the law of stoning prostitutes. All Jesus did was guilt the men who had been using the prostitute into not stoning her, and give her a life saving suggestions "go and sin no more"... i.e. stop being a prostitute or you are going to get yourself stoned to death you dumb wench.

@patriotic Said

There is a thematic unity. The OT leaves us with unfulfilled prophecies, unexplained ceremonies, unsatisfied longings and as unfinished destiny. The NT fulfills, explains, satisfies and finishes all of these things.
Jesus said, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.” Matt 5:17
And He continues; “You have heard that it was said. ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you…whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.” Matt 5:38-39
Also, “You have heard that it was said, ‘you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy’. But I say to you, love your enemies.” And much more in Matthew 5, for whoever is honest and serious about finding the TRUTH.
Also, one should note the fact that Jesus did not force his teachings on His followers: “And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet.” Matt 10:14
Also, “If the household is worthy, let your peace come upon. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you.” Matt 10-13

As you may notice, Jesus is taking the people GRADUALLY from the era of establishing the law to extreme peace & love. Look at the people's behavior with Moses after all what he has done for them.

@Leon Said

You have to go through reinterpretive gymnastics to unify them as both of you have done.

@Cpat92 Said

I don't really think any of the Abrahamic Religions are centered around peace.

@chaski Said

Or you use the NT to promote the "good" and "loving" parts to convince people they are forgiven of all wrong doing my merely accepting the Jesus story.

Then when you want to point your holier than tho finger at someone, you pull passages out of the OT to insult people and tell they are an aberration against god... the obvious but not only example being homosexuals.

Its a great book that lets you be "loving" and "hateful" all at once.

@Leon Said

Of course. People have been using scripture, or religion in general, to fit their purpose ad nauseam.

And of course, it’s just as easy to throw it back at them with another quote from the same source. The best is when they are genuinely surprised that what you throw back at them is in there.

@patriotic Said


what you said DOES NOT APPLY TO CHRISTIANITY.

@DiscordTiger Said

I think they are centered around control. Follow me or die. No in between. Whether something is “peaceful” or right doesn’t matter.—As long as you are following the leader.

Obedience is the control method religion makes people think they have peace.

@patriotic Said

Of course. People have been using scripture, or religion in general, to fit their purpose ad nauseam.

And of course, it’s just as easy to throw it back at them with another quote from the same source. The best is when they are genuinely surprised that what you throw back at them is in there.

Generalizations, is very misleading especially in the subject of religion.
That is why I support my posts with references.
How about that? It brings us no where just to say something and cannot support it.
Well, answering your comment, anyway, what you said DOES NOT APPLY TO CHRISTIANITY.

@patriotic Said

Jesus said, “you shall love your Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind.. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it ‘You shall love your neighbor as your self. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets,” Mt22:37-40
“A new commandment I give you, that you love one another; as I loved you , that you also love one another, by this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another, John 13:34-35
“If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and We will come into him and make Our home with him.” John 14:23
“These things I command you, that you love one another.” John 15-17
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, you shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of judgment, but I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment “. Mt. 5:21-22
“Furthermore, it has been said, whoever divorces his wife let him give a certificate of divorce. But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery.” Mt 5:31-32
“You have heard that it was said, you shall love your neighbor and hate you enemy; but I say to you ‘love you enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those spitefully use you and persecute you.” Mt 5:43-44

“Love never fails.” 1 Cor 13:8
“For I have come not to call the righteous, but the sinners.” Mt. 9:13
“with all lowliness and gentleness, with long suffering, bearing one another in love.” Eph 4:2
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her.” Eph 5:25

“For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.” 1 Tm 6:10
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal.” Mt 6:8

“Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you , not as the world gives I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.” John 14:27
IF THIS NOT PEACE, WHAT IS?!

@gakINGKONG Said

They’re talking about the free love hippie flower thing.

@patriotic Said

Well, It is obvious that the folks here are not interested in serious discussion.
I asked few times, give texts and references to prove a point.