Is Canadian Law Too Soft on Young Killers?

@DorkySupergirl Said

I would prefer our minors to be treated too lenient than us putting minors on death row and executing them and also perhaps later finding out they are innocent.

Perhaps our justice system is too lenient on minors but we do allow the realization that people can change and want the focus to be on rehabilitation for the minor and to get help in prison and to leave and still have a chance at life. We are not a country as some are to execute and have minors on death row.

How many people have been proven innocent in your country who have been executed? I would rather live in a place that might be too lenient than a country that fries innocent people and allows minors to be on death row and not give a minor a chance to rehabilitate.

Lookie here, minors who could have a change to rehabilitate, executed in your state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_juvenile_offenders_executed_in_the_United_States

If I was bothered to, I could find many cases in US law where a person was given a light sentence when they have done horrible things.

I could find deals made with US devils, like our Karla. It happens everywhere, not just in Canada.

But my country is more let us help minors and your state seems to be, no matter the age, no one changes, fry them.

@carelt1985 Said

I have no disrespect towards Canada. I'm proud to be an American, but I'm not too proud to admit we can be f***ed up...especially by law.

@carelt1985 Said

To answer that...lots. I used to live in Chicago...and when these kids filmed a beating death on a young man, the guys who killed him needed to be punish. Also, I'm not speaking of the innocent. I'm speaking of the guilty. Those three girls I mentioned earlier, in my opinion, needs punishment.

@carelt1985 Said

I have no disrespect towards Canada. I'm proud to be an American, but I'm not too proud to admit we can be f***ed up...especially by law.

@sTreetAngeL Said

Fiercely loyal you are!




Amen. To that.

@DorkySupergirl Said

@DorkySupergirl Said

I stated that perhaps we are too lenient and maybe in some cases we are. I advised as to why we are lenient and since you decided to comment about a justice system you know little about, do not work in and are not trained on, I commented on your system. Your system allows minors to be on death row and later executed and little chance for rehabilitation.

Both my country and your country have problems in our respective criminal justice systems, things that could be fixed. I think in many cases minors can be rehabilitated and if so, its up to us to do this and help them and many times a child is a child and not an adult. And there are times a minor should be tried as an adult but I prefer my system, where we give a chance and do not allow a minor to be on death row and later executed.

I just think as an outsider, perhaps your thoughts should be how to fix your system instead of how to fix another countries system and point out the flaws in mine when yours has flaws that result in execution when that is not a possibility here.

@sTreetAngeL Said

I knew you'd be coming back for me.

@carelt1985 Said

You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. Personally, those girls should've been incarcerated for a least two decades.

@DorkySupergirl Said






Yes, but your opinion is not an educated one on this particular topic and you seem to know very little about my country, its laws and our YOA. I am not talking issue with your opinion, your are entitled to one and I am really not trying to make it wrong but you have little knowledge and are basing your opinion on a few cases you saw on tv or read about. Would you want me to make assumptions about your country on a few bad stories I read or heard about and speak of your country on an issue I know little about and my opinion be negative?

@carelt1985 Said

Hey, say anything you want about whatever's going on with my country.

@DorkySupergirl Said

But that is the thing, I really try hard not to make negative comments about another country when my own has flaws. My goal is more fixing what is in my own country and what is wrong with it than pointing out what I think is the flaw in another.

Your area Texas, I find is very, shoot first and ask later. Its very good ole boy state and very keen on executions. I am not saying that is right or wrong but that is not how it is here. Here it is very much trying to get those sentenced under YOA to rehabilitate and become productive members of society.

Some can't rehabilitate but many who do bad things at 15 can change and become valuable members of society and based on each case, might deserve a chance and deserve some help. Its not so much here never see the light of day but punish and while we punish, try to make them better. I prefer that.

@carelt1985 Said

Note: I was only speaking my mind, and I'm not a Texan. I'm from Illinois. I'm in the Army; stationed in Fort Hood. Also, I'm not too blind to know the flaws in my country.

@carelt1985 Said

I read about these Canadian crime stories.

1. Two sisters from Toronto, Ontario drown their mother, in the bathtub, to received money after her death. They were imprisoned for 4 years.

2. A 12-year-old girl from Medicine Hat, Alberta plots a triple murder of her parents and 8-year-old little brother to be with her 23-year-old boyfriend. Now, the boyfriend is jailed for life, while the girl gets 10 years. She will be released, in 2016.

In my opinion, in the States, the young women would have been serving a lengthy prison sentence, if not life. I have no disrespect towards Canada...but...isn't the Canadian law too soft on young killers?

@sTreetAngeL Said

Have they ever implemented weapons regulations for buses yet, due to this case?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2008/07/31/greyhound-transcanada.html

@DorkySupergirl Said

I realize but the problem is that, and no offense, you know very little about the criminal justice system in Canada and our YOA and you are basing your opinion not on education, first hand knowledge or experience, but on what you saw on tv or read about and I find when one is not familiar with a topic, their opinion often changes once they are familiar with a topic.

I am not saying you can't have an opinion but I find your opinion is based on knowing very little for facts. I find it to be a very ill informed opinion.

I also think that its due to cultural difference. My country is much different than yours when it comes to punishment and our punishment for youth. I would not make your system wrong, its just different than mine is all so I do take some offense to your lack of knowledge about this topic and with that lack of knowledge coming to a conclusion Canadian legal system is wrong when it comes to our YOA.