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Xilmwa On June 19, 2015
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Zarglibniksokternimilis,
#1New Post! Feb 09, 2009 @ 12:47:11
ActiveX basically lets the control do anything it wants on your computer without your permission.


And so I got to thinking. How many of IE's problems are just ActiveX?
WildFire On August 07, 2009

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#2New Post! Feb 09, 2009 @ 13:00:14
i have had no problems with ActiveX or IE
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#3New Post! Feb 09, 2009 @ 14:41:03
@Xilmwa Said

ActiveX basically lets the control do anything it wants on your computer without your permission.


Bzzzzzzt, wrong. Try again.
Xilmwa On June 19, 2015
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Zarglibniksokternimilis,
#4New Post! Feb 09, 2009 @ 22:30:56
@jonnythan Said

Bzzzzzzt, wrong. Try again.


Yes, it does.

However, I am glad that IE gives you an option not to load the control now.

But believe me, it does. I know it does because I once installed a media player ActiveX control and got Antivirus XP 2008.
NotlihNhoj On August 12, 2009




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#5New Post! Feb 09, 2009 @ 22:44:25
ActiveX is responsible for making the spreading of malware easier, but probably less so than Java.
Whatever browser you use, you should use your settings to restrict both of these platforms background access.
In Firefox running 'noscript' is a good idea, but even that doesn't make you completely safe, merely more so.
Xilmwa On June 19, 2015
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Zarglibniksokternimilis,
#6New Post! Feb 09, 2009 @ 23:30:55
@NotlihNhoj Said

ActiveX is responsible for making the spreading of malware easier, but probably less so than Java.
Whatever browser you use, you should use your settings to restrict both of these platforms background access.
In Firefox running 'noscript' is a good idea, but even that doesn't make you completely safe, merely more so.

Right, nothing is going to be 100% secure.

My real problem is when Microsoft deliberately lies.
https://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/driveby.mspx

[yt]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/3qxg0z6YQy4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/3qxg0z6YQy4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/yt]
kentoo On October 26, 2010




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#7New Post! Feb 09, 2009 @ 23:59:51
@Xilmwa Said

Right, nothing is going to be 100% secure.

My real problem is when Microsoft deliberately lies.
https://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/driveby.mspx

[yt]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/3qxg0z6YQy4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/3qxg0z6YQy4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/yt]
That link is to a three year old article I sure hope that the problem has been rectified by now. I know for a fact that IE7 has had a few security patches since then ... whether they got the problem resolved is a good question because as you say they cant stop them all.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#8New Post! Feb 10, 2009 @ 00:22:37
@Xilmwa Said

Yes, it does.

However, I am glad that IE gives you an option not to load the control now.

But believe me, it does. I know it does because I once installed a media player ActiveX control and got Antivirus XP 2008.


Indeed. You installed it. It didn't happen without your knowledge or consent.

Every operating system ever created allows programs you installed to do basically whatever they want.
Xilmwa On June 19, 2015
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Zarglibniksokternimilis,
#9New Post! Feb 10, 2009 @ 00:55:13
@jonnythan Said

Indeed. You installed it. It didn't happen without your knowledge or consent.

Every operating system ever created allows programs you installed to do basically whatever they want.


look at what I said:
@Xilmwa Said

ActiveX basically lets the control do anything it wants on your computer without your permission.


"lets the control"

which shows you already installed it.
Xilmwa On June 19, 2015
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Zarglibniksokternimilis,
#10New Post! Feb 10, 2009 @ 00:55:39
@kentoo Said

That link is to a three year old article I sure hope that the problem has been rectified by now. I know for a fact that IE7 has had a few security patches since then ... whether they got the problem resolved is a good question because as you say they cant stop them all.

I do know that it wasn't fixed in IE8 beta 1.
kentoo On October 26, 2010




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#11New Post! Feb 10, 2009 @ 01:08:10
@Xilmwa Said

I do know that it wasn't fixed in IE8 beta 1.
The RC1 is available. I thought that the link was to an article applying to IE7. By the way I found no lies in that article. Can you be specific?
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#12New Post! Feb 10, 2009 @ 01:11:03
@Xilmwa Said
"lets the control"

which shows you already installed it.


That applies to any program on any operating system.
WildFire On August 07, 2009

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#13New Post! Feb 10, 2009 @ 01:24:18
including the operating system
Xilmwa On June 19, 2015
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Zarglibniksokternimilis,
#14New Post! Feb 10, 2009 @ 01:46:04
@jonnythan Said

That applies to any program on any operating system.


Yes, but you would think ActiveX would attempt to monitor the control and prompt you for suspicious files, i.e. *.EXE.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#15New Post! Feb 10, 2009 @ 01:48:05
@Xilmwa Said

Yes, but you would think ActiveX would attempt to monitor the control and prompt you for suspicious files, i.e. *.EXE.


ActiveX programs are just like any other program on any other OS. Once you give them permission to do what they want, they can do what they want.

I don't know why you're expecting ActiveX programs you install to be so different from other programs.
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