Immigration - UK

@CannyMind Said


The "not enough room in a small country" argument is absolute rubbish.
Since the clearances the highlands are empty: the entire population of the Netherlands (area=41,543 sq km) could easily be dropped almost anywhere in the highlands, (area=78,772 sq km Scotland) and the place would still be relatively sparsely populated.

@iwannano Said

Here is the site that has quite a bit of info on Europes crime .
https://www.forbes.com/2008/07/15/europe-capitals-crime-forbeslife-cx_po_0715crime.html
somwhere on this site is the link to the story I'm still looking for it.

@CannyMind Said

It's a well known truism that; "you shouldn't believe everything you read". When applied to anything published by "Forbes" (well known publishers of the Rich List) I'd be doubly wary, in case you're still in any doubt about where their political affiliations lie, the motto of Forbes is "The Capitalist Tool".

Rich men's tools: how apt!

@sheepy Said

No, that is absolute rubbish.

Can the highlands sustain tens of thousands in the modern day? There is a vast difference between the Netherlands (Flat mild farming area) and the highlands.
This IS a small country. The places people want to live and are able to live are finite. The cities are bulging, there is pressure on green belt agricultural land, there is immense pressure on infrastructure.....or who is going to pay for the huge increase in new housing, schools etc?
Dump them all in the highlands. Oh that is really going to go down a treat with the people coming over here.

@CannyMind Said

It was not a plan to repopulate the highlands, merely an observation that one of the most densely populated countries (Netherlands) in the world could easily be accommodated in a region of Scotland with room to spare. If the lairds (landowners) hadn't depopulated the highlands to profit from sheep, today they would (and could) support a far higher population. (Which is a bye-the-bye, as I said it wasn't a plan for repopulation, just an observation).

To quickly deal with your other points, the immigrants themselves would increase the wealth available to all.
In the end all wealth is created by work (labour power); more people = more labour power = more wealth.

@WASH Said

Tell that tp the African population. Any immigrants moving there?

@sheepy Said

I have no problems with people who love this country and want to come live/work here, think they can contribute to the country and better themselves in the process - come on in!
Better than some of the chavs we have here already - perhaps we can kick some of these disgraces out to make room for immigrants who will be better citizens

Anyone who does not love this country, wants to sponge off the place, wants to spread intolerance and hatred - they can frankly f*** off. We are tolerant and accepting - maybe there is somewhere more suited to them...like Zimbabwe.

There however has to be controls. This is a small island with finite resources. There are social/economic problems which are heightened with larger population. There needs to be controlled immigration with perhaps a points system

Contrary to popular opinion, this government hasn't opened the floodgates, it's damned hard to legally emigrate to the UK. What they have done is opened the "backdoor" route through relatives already living here, and labour mp's have voiced concern we are importing backward looking third world attitudes along with this policy contrary to our liberal traditions.
This lifting has also greatly contributed to the rise of the BNP. Once a very fringe party, this is a monster of Labours creation - simple fact. It would be so easy to take away their support if Labour actually listened.

Not everyone who might want to come here can be accomodated. It's as simple as that.

Oh and anyone of these absolute total s*** for brains who dare to even suggest this is racist - get a f***ing life!

@jmo Said

OK, trying not to delve into racism/people accusing people of being racist what are your opinions on Immigration into the UK?

Is there too much, too little, are we strict enough, too strict? What do you think?

@sheepy Said

No, that is absolute rubbish.

Can the highlands sustain tens of thousands in the modern day? There is a vast difference between the Netherlands (Flat mild farming area) and the highlands.
This IS a small country. The places people want to live and are able to live are finite. The cities are bulging, there is pressure on green belt agricultural land, there is immense pressure on infrastructure.....or who is going to pay for the huge increase in new housing, schools etc?
Dump them all in the highlands. Oh that is really going to go down a treat with the people coming over here.

@glassman55 Said

It's not a question of /can/ they, but a question of how would the highlanders react. If immigrants were responsible for the ruining of the countryside here, I would personally tell each one to bugger off. Prosperity is one thing that's good when caused by immigration, but any destruction of heritage will have majorly crossed the line. If that happened, would it not be fair to tear down the beautiful historical cathedral in krakov for room for a housing estate for the british? Of course not. It's heritage. Heritage is for the country's people itself. Touching someone elses sacrosanct heritage is just wrong in every situation.

@KAMPA Said

The Krakow Cathedral comment leads me to believe you are anti Polish immigration. You obviously are to young to know the significsnt role Poles played in defending the UK from naziism!