I thought this had a good point

@KaseyKat Said

I came across this quote, and I thought it had a good point.

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the rich out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply the wealth by dividing it."
-Adrian Rogers

What are your thoughts?

@jmo Said

Complete rubbish. He seems to be subscribing to the old conservative adage that the best way to make wealth for all people is to allow some people to get rich so the wealth will 'trickle down' to the poor in society. It doesn't work like that. The only way people can become rich is at the expense of others.

@ThePainefulTruth Said



National economics is NOT a zero sum game.

@ThePainefulTruth Said

"Trickle down economics" was a pejorative used by the media against Reagan when he got the tax cut passed. They did the very same thing to JFK for the exact same reason. "Tax cuts for the wealthy". And the tax cuts were economy savers in both instances, particularly Reagan's after Jimmy Carter's economic sabotage.

National economics is NOT a zero sum game. As JFK said, "A rising tide lifts all boats". But that is contrary to socialist power mongering.

@jmo Said

Complete rubbish. He seems to be subscribing to the old conservative adage that the best way to make wealth for all people is to allow some people to get rich so the wealth will 'trickle down' to the poor in society. It doesn't work like that. The only way people can become rich is at the expense of others.

@Coleosis Said

You become rich by working hard and making a product that people want or providing a service that people want. By doing that, you shouldnt be forced to take care of the next guy that would rather drink and do drugs instead of work hard. If you earned the money, you deserve to keep it.

@jmo Said

No you don't. There are plenty who work hard and don't become rich, there are plenty who suffer not because of their own endeavour but because of the situation they are in or simple bad luck.

Do you genuinely believe all those who are poor or who need help from the state are drunks or drug addicts? That's quite a judgement.

Particularly in the current economic situation there are plenty of people who work hard for a living, but could get laid off, perhaps have the wrong skills, can't get a job. And there are those who are rich, super rich, beyond how rich anyone need's to be. Often they haven't worked that hard themselves.

@jmo Said

No you don't. There are plenty who work hard and don't become rich, there are plenty who suffer not because of their own endeavour but because of the situation they are in or simple bad luck.

Do you genuinely believe all those who are poor or who need help from the state are drunks or drug addicts? That's quite a judgement.

Particularly in the current economic situation there are plenty of people who work hard for a living, but could get laid off, perhaps have the wrong skills, can't get a job. And there are those who are rich, super rich, beyond how rich anyone need's to be. Often they haven't worked that hard themselves.

@aquine Said

You sound like the typical middle class boy who pretends to be an advocate for the poor just in case your luck ever runs out and you end up poor yourself.

Here's the tip. You already are poor. Dirt poor. Poor. Naked. Blind. You are in a wretched state as it is.

The fact that you believe that all the falseness to which you aspire is anything only multiplies your poverty beyond any conceivable measure.

Revelation 3:14-22
[14] And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
[15] I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
[16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
[17] Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
[18] I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
[19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
[20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
[21] To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
[22] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Blessed be the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

@SparklyKatie Said

This thread is about good points aquine not useless ones.

@aquine Said

Always remember that if Jesus Chrrist nailed to a cross wasn't a good idea, then your nation wouldn't have a flag and thereore you wouldn't even be.

@SparklyKatie Said

What are you babbling on about?