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billposters On February 11, 2008




Basildon, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 11:13:01
Something that has troubled me recently regards evolutionay theory and in particular, "big bang theology". If we maintain that the universe was created out of nothing and we all are indeed just a consistency of star dust and gasses, where in the equation does human conciousness begin? How does inanimate matter develop into something living, breathing, and thinking?
Charles On November 16, 2010




, Christmas Island
#2New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 11:18:51
Maybe that's were God comes into the equation?
treebee On April 13, 2015
Government Hooker

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London, United Kingdom
#3New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 11:19:12
really short answer, we are carbon based beings who have the right amount of physical chemistry to think for ourselves and learn. How - i dont know. Why - i dont know that either. When - i havent got a clue
El_Tino On August 10, 2020
booyaka!





Albuquerque, New Mexico
#4New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 11:19:50
Well presumably consciousness is nothing more than brain activity.

To believe otherwise is to already assume some sort of split between physical/nonphysical. In other words, you are assuming there are things that operate outside the laws of physical nature. There is proof that the physical can influence consciousness, however, so there must be some causal connections there. The simplest explanation is that consciousness is brain activiity, unless you're suggesting some new natural laws that nobody knows about.
billposters On February 11, 2008




Basildon, United Kingdom
#5New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 11:34:11
Whilst consciousness may be put down to brain activity (which i personally feel is far too simplified an explanation), I still cant help but feel the vast jump required to change from inanimate to animate is bewildering. To begin with, how can something be created out of nothing, and how can the inanimate develop into intelligent living life without some kind of external force working upon it?
knotme On March 20, 2016




London, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 11:51:08
@billposters Said
Whilst consciousness may be put down to brain activity (which i personally feel is far too simplified an explanation), I still cant help but feel the vast jump required to change from inanimate to animate is bewildering. To begin with, how can something be created out of nothing, and how can the inanimate develop into intelligent living life without some kind of external force working upon it?


Maybe this is where God comes in (as previously suggested by Charles).
Erlend On July 29, 2009

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Troms?, Norway
#7New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 11:57:41
@billposters Said
Whilst consciousness may be put down to brain activity (which i personally feel is far too simplified an explanation), I still cant help but feel the vast jump required to change from inanimate to animate is bewildering. To begin with, how can something be created out of nothing, and how can the inanimate develop into intelligent living life without some kind of external force working upon it?

Science explains it quite well. If you're not happy with that, I guess God or whatever you want to call it is the only option.
markfox01 On October 29, 2018
innit!





Welshman in Brum.., United Kin
#8New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 11:58:55
The big bang thoery is still a thoery but does hold alot of water in wat it is.

As for planetery evolution, and how we became. we can only answer as a direct result of millions of years of cooling on certain planets in the sweet spots of orbits around stars. the thoery then spans into the pimeordial soup thoery, The Primordial Soup Theory suggest that life began in a pond or ocean as a result of the combination of chemicals from the atmosphere and some form of energy to make amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, which would then evolve into all the species.

No the time frame of which we work on this is billions of years of mutation from ratiadiation atmospheric changes. the plants and animals that evolved had to have a area of there body to control there basic insticts like breathe etc.. i bet somewhere along the evolution they had to conciously think to breathe.. once that was a automated thing, eating.. and general survival. which the more they need to survive i guess the more the vbrain of said animals would evolve to learn. which then gain conciousness to learn.. but maybe they learn inherantly or they actually pick things up. then there bodies suit there enviroment over millions of year sof selection and enviromental selection, it is not the strongest that survive but the ones willing to change, which creates intelligents or awareness. millions of year of change and awareness then you get more and more complicated brain matter and then more and more thought of the said animals surroundings. making it think or react due to skills learned. millions of years of that.. then you have us....

anyway that my thoughts on it.
emily111169 On January 08, 2008




Halifax, Canada
#9New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 12:12:19
I believe in intelligent design, I just don't think God is a Christian.
billposters On February 11, 2008




Basildon, United Kingdom
#10New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 12:13:18
"the combination of chemicals from the atmosphere and some form of energy to make amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, which would then evolve into all the species"

Just like that? I cant help thinking that science has to justify its belief without any proof, thus becoming totally unscientific. The problem then arrives of evolution by mutation, where mutation actually improves a species rather than deteriorates it. This is found nowhere in nature.
markfox01 On October 29, 2018
innit!





Welshman in Brum.., United Kin
#11New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 12:29:28
@billposters Said
"the combination of chemicals from the atmosphere and some form of energy to make amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, which would then evolve into all the species"

Just like that? I cant help thinking that science has to justify its belief without any proof, thus becoming totally unscientific. The problem then arrives of evolution by mutation, where mutation actually improves a species rather than deteriorates it. This is found nowhere in nature.


I think the science bit no offence would be over your head.. you would have to look at it from a subatomic level of how things joined in certain enviroments.. which happens over millions of years. The actually science you will need to understand bio chemistry..

Why dont you think mutation is not found in nature? is it not a certain enviroment that cause a change in the geno... a mutation, so that said organism can survive within its changing enviroment.
MonkeyMadness On April 08, 2015
Lord of your mum





Big Tree, United Kingdom
#12New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 12:32:04
Lets say we have a bundle of cells, it is the extent of life on the planet.
It was created an evolutionary defence mechanisim where by instead of normal mitosis where the cell splits in two and they go there seperate ways, this cell splits in two and the new cell stays attached to the parent because whateve enviroment it is in and whatever threats it faces, this is the best way to survive.
These cells work together the survive and after a few million years with enviromental changes included, the cells have evolved to be a bigger bundle, eventualy over millions of years this bundle has to change to survive and cells on the outside of the bundle have to move the bundle around on its search for energy and cells on the inside are needed for other jobs.
Eventualy you will have the very basic sea creatures, plankton->shrimps->small crustaceans
and then things start to get interesting, cells are developed for hunting/defence, brains are developed, starting as a few cells to keep other cells working and this develops into the brain keeping the organs working.
After that point, the big development that I dont get is self awareness, I can understand why a dog looks in the mirror and sees another dog and not itself, and i understand how we can look in the mirror and not see a different person, but i dont understand how we went from one to the other.
knotme On March 20, 2016




London, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 12:32:59
@emily111169 Said
I believe in intelligent design, I just don't think God is a Christian.


He's not, but we Christians follow him just the same as the other Abrahamic religions do.
cyrus On February 18, 2008

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Arabsville, Egypt
#14New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 12:34:54
@billposters Said
"the combination of chemicals from the atmosphere and some form of energy to make amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, which would then evolve into all the species"

Just like that? I cant help thinking that science has to justify its belief without any proof, thus becoming totally unscientific. The problem then arrives of evolution by mutation, where mutation actually improves a species rather than deteriorates it. This is found nowhere in nature.


Try reading 'the blind watchmaker' prof richard dawkins. You may find alot of the answers your looking for in there.
MonkeyMadness On April 08, 2015
Lord of your mum





Big Tree, United Kingdom
#15New Post! Jan 08, 2008 @ 12:35:05
@knotme Said
He's not, but we Christians follow him just the same as the other Abrahamic religions do.


He doesnt believe in his own teachings?!
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