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fitzyp On December 23, 2014




Auckland, New Zealand
#1New Post! Oct 31, 2011 @ 07:36:21
One of the biggest reasons for the infrequency of my posts in this forum is because the forums in this section are generally really partisan. What I mean is that they are generally set up with something like: "Obama does something stupid", "The GOP candidates are all insane" or "Fox news is biased". Whilst these are all worth while threads to start as someone who isn't really interested in defending Obama and knows how crazy the GOP candidates are there isn't really much to discuss. So I'm starting this thread and probably others to get political discussions moving in a way that get people to state for themselves what should be done and to defend their own ideas rather than setting people up to defend or attack particular politicians.


So my question for people is what would you change in your countries criminal justice system? Or USAs criminal justice system or criminal justice systems in general? Would you increase sentences for all? let everyone free? Increase/decrease the war on drugs? What about the death penalty?
Yankees On November 28, 2012




, New Jersey
#2New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 00:41:26
like my college professor says....this is for the USA by the way.....i would release all the druggies because forking up 49,000 dollars a year to keep one harmless drug user off the street is putting the U.S. in so much debt.....also i would make it so that all murderers get life in prison or death penalty (depending on the states laws on death penalty).....thats about the only thing i would want to change...everything else is pretty ok
hoppy On August 27, 2013




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#3New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:18:04
@Yankees Said

like my college professor says....this is for the USA by the way.....i would release all the druggies because forking up 49,000 dollars a year to keep one harmless drug user off the street is putting the U.S. in so much debt.....also i would make it so that all murderers get life in prison or death penalty (depending on the states laws on death penalty).....thats about the only thing i would want to change...everything else is pretty ok



I never knew a harmless druggie. I knew plenty of thieves of all sorts, who were drug users. A few wife beaters who were users. The only time a doper is harmless is when he/she is in jail.
Yankees On November 28, 2012




, New Jersey
#4New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:27:24
you know EVERY drug user...i doubt it....according to FBI statistics there were over 1.6 million arrests in 2010 for drug offenses....i doubt that every user was violent because then the other offenses would have been a lot higher....many arrests are just for simple possession of marijuana....try to do some research before you make a ridiculous comment
hoppy On August 27, 2013




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#5New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:31:38
@Yankees Said

you know EVERY drug user...i doubt it....according to FBI statistics there were over 1.6 million arrests in 2010 for drug offenses....i doubt that every user was violent because then the other offenses would have been a lot higher....many arrests are just for simple possession of marijuana....try to do some research before you make a ridiculous comment



Never said I knew EVERY drug user. I insinuated the ones I did know were into other shady s***. Reading comprehension is a handy thing.
Yankees On November 28, 2012




, New Jersey
#6New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:33:01
@hoppy Said

Never said I knew EVERY drug user. I insinuated the ones I did know were into other shady s***. Reading comprehension is a handy thing.



well you say that the only time drug users are harmless is when they are locked up....that implies that every drug user is dangerous....the only way to know that is to know every one of them
restoreone On November 27, 2020




, Ohio
#7New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:34:50
@Yankees Said

well you say that the only time drug users are harmless is when they are locked up....that implies that every drug user is dangerous....the only way to know that is to know every one of them


anywhere from 12% to 19% were on drugs at the time of their crime or was doing the crime to get money for drugs https://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm
hoppy On August 27, 2013




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#8New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:35:15
@Yankees Said

well you say that the only time drug users are harmless is when they are locked up....that implies that every drug user is dangerous....the only way to know that is to know every one of them



Potentially, they are.
Yankees On November 28, 2012




, New Jersey
#9New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:35:31
that's not all of them
Yankees On November 28, 2012




, New Jersey
#10New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:36:43
@hoppy Said

Potentially, they are.



everybody has the potential to be dangerous...should we just lock everybody up?
hoppy On August 27, 2013




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#11New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:37:24
@Yankees Said

everybody has the potential to be dangerous...should we just lock everybody up?



No. Just the druggies.
Yankees On November 28, 2012




, New Jersey
#12New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:40:47
well it's the older generation like you that put us into this financial crisis...locking up druggies around 49,000 dollars a year for nothing is a big factor....we have lost the war on drugs and should use Portugal's policy on drugs
DiscordTiger On August 23, 2021
The Queen of Random

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Emerald City, United States (g
#13New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 01:45:01
Meh, I'd probably let the marijuana smokers out, if possession was their only crime, however if the committed another crime while high or to score, it would be a mitigating circumstances to add more time to their sentence. I'd probably add something to the effect of doing that with drinking, as some "drunks" can be just as bad. it just happens their "drug" is legal. marijuana, would be the only one I'd consider letting people out for though.

Id also do away with the death penalty, im not certain it serves as a good enough deterrent and its freaking expensive, not worth it in my opinion.

I'd also like to see the quality and amount of public defenders available increased, money shouldn't be the determiner of a capable lawyer. Not that public defenders are not capable, a lot of times they are overworked due to heavy caseloads, so they can't focus as much on a case. There needs to be a better middle ground than there is now.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#14New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 02:56:47
De-criminalize drug use. Sell the stuff from pharmacy with required permits. Separate violent criminals from non-violent. Actually rehabilitate instead of warehousing. Put the money spent on prison into getting people back on their feet and into housing.
restoreone On November 27, 2020




, Ohio
#15New Post! Nov 01, 2011 @ 03:19:37
@shinobinoz Said

De-criminalize drug use. Sell the stuff from pharmacy with required permits. Separate violent criminals from non-violent. Actually rehabilitate instead of warehousing. Put the money spent on prison into getting people back on their feet and into housing.


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