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Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#1New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 01:42:31
I don't care whether you are rich or poor, black or white, healthcare is a human right. Yesterday, I saw Pat Robertson railing against "socialism" on my t.v. which offended me as a Christian and as a caring human being. How dare somebody who claims to follow Jesus adopt such an elitist and selfish view of the world. I guess it's to be expected from corporate shills pretending to be Christian. By their fruits you shall know them. I'm so sick of feeling humiliated as a Christian by those that make a mockery of my faith. People: these creeps on t.v. have nothing to do with Christianity. If I had no morals, I would host a " Christian" t.v. show. The fact is that the simple message Jesus brought is actually really believed by some of us. We are all weak broken vessels who need to care for each other. Aside from any political views, God teaches us that we are to look after each other and that love covers a multitude of sins.
mr_ash On January 08, 2013




, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 01:46:19
@Rasputin Said

I don't care whether you are rich or poor, black or white, healthcare is a human right. Yesterday, I saw Pat Robertson railing against "socialism" on my t.v. which offended me as a Christian and as a caring human being. How dare somebody who claims to follow Jesus adopt such an elitist and selfish view of the world. I guess it's to be expected from corporate shills pretending to be Christian. By their fruits you shall know them. I'm so sick of feeling humiliated as a Christian by those that make a mockery of my faith. People: these creeps on t.v. have nothing to do with Christianity. If I had no morals, I would host a " Christian" t.v. show. The fact is that the simple message Jesus brought is actually really believed by some of us. We are all weak broken vessels who need to care for each other. Aside from any political views, God teaches us that we are to look after each other and that love covers a multitude of sins.


Why is health care a human right? I don't get you.

Health care is an institution looking after a section of society in a community. Usually it's own.
Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#3New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 01:54:30
Compulsive Disorder Oppressive?
squirt_aka_casey On April 21, 2018
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That place, Ohio
#4New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 01:59:53
AMEN!!

I agree 100%!!

I can't for the life of me think of the passage, but it's something about how you treat the least is how you are regarded in Heaven.....

Even tried looking on Bible Gateway
squirt_aka_casey On April 21, 2018
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That place, Ohio
#5New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:01:11
@mr_ash Said

Why is health care a human right? I don't get you.

Health care is an institution looking after a section of society in a community. Usually it's own.



But that's just it, it shouldn't be. A person should have the right to live, do you not think so?
Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#6New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:01:54
@squirt_aka_casey Said

AMEN!!

I agree 100%!!

I can't for the life of me think of the passage, but it's something about how you treat the least is how you are regarded in Heaven.....

Even tried looking on Bible Gateway
"Whatsoever you do to the least of these, that you do unto me."
squirt_aka_casey On April 21, 2018
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That place, Ohio
#7New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:03:03
@Rasputin Said

"Whatsoever you do to the least of these, that you do unto me."



That is it exactly!! Thank you!!!
Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#8New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:05:51
@mr_ash Said

Why is health care a human right? I don't get you.

Health care is an institution looking after a section of society in a community. Usually it's own.
We are all our brothers keeper.
DorkySupergirl On November 02, 2017




, Canada
#9New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:27:33
I don't mind if my tax dollars go to help someone who needs it. Someone on disability, someone who actually needs welfare and is using it as a temporary thing while they get back on their feet.

What bothers me is my taxes paying for 100% free medical insurance for those who abuse the system.

I made sure I received a good education, I work hard and since I have been 18, I have been 100% on my own and paid my way through life. I do not get free eye care, free dental or free prescritions. But my tax dollars ensure that able bodied men and women receive all that for free. I have to pay for private insurance each month.

Again, I am not talking about people who are having a rough patch and such. Just those who abuse the system/do not help themselves.

I believe in God but I don't think just because I beleive in God, I should be okay paying for other people because they do not want to work or help themselves.

For people who need my tax dollars, I do not mind and would think if I had to be in that situation, it does not make me less of a person.
Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#10New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:30:50
Hi, you probably had many advantadges that others did not.
squirt_aka_casey On April 21, 2018
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That place, Ohio
#11New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:34:59
I would dispute that, really, I find that most people who do not have the advantages work harder to get where they are.

The only advantage that I can really see that she absolutely has is motivation.
mr_ash On January 08, 2013




, United Kingdom
#12New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:36:47
@Rasputin Said

Compulsive Disorder Oppressive?


Aha, good retort!


@squirt_aka_casey Said

But that's just it, it shouldn't be. A person should have the right to live, do you not think so?


Of course everyone has a right to live. That doesn't give someone the right to health care. You are arguing a different cause.

If a country hasn't got enough money to pay for 'free' health care, then rights are obstructed by realities.

@Rasputin Said

We are all our brothers keeper.


In our country we had a 'live aid' thing many many years ago. It helped millions of people. I can't argue with helping people. I also put money in.

I now wonder where I put my money. What was created was more poverty. Because the people that were helped raised the population. Tell me brother, did I do right by giving money? or I have done wrong by creating more poverty and death?



I honestly don't know, that wasn't a rhetorical question Sir.
squirt_aka_casey On April 21, 2018
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That place, Ohio
#13New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:46:46
@mr_ash Said

Of course everyone has a right to live. That doesn't give someone the right to health care. You are arguing a different cause.

If a country hasn't got enough money to pay for 'free' health care, then rights are obstructed by realities.


What other rights then would you say should be taken from you next? The right to live doesn't just cover whether or not someone is alive or dead. The right to live means that, as a human, you have the right to do what you need to so as you ensure your longevity. Some people need help so they can eat, but, there really is not enough money for that... should they give up their right to eat and just starve?

There is a certain level of responsibility on the community as a whole to instill values that help one fend for themselves, but, a community is just that, you help when help is needed.

There needs to be a line drawn, yes, when that help becomes mooching, and giving to them is no longer helping them, but, if you give the correct help, you should never have to reach that line.

@mr_ash Said
In our country we had a 'live aid' thing many many years ago. It helped millions of people. I can't argue with helping people. I also put money in.

I now wonder where I put my money. What was created was more poverty. Because the people that were helped raised the population. Tell me brother, did I do right by giving money? or I have done wrong by creating more poverty and death?



I honestly don't know, that wasn't a rhetorical question Sir.



No, you did right, bc it was no you who caused the poverty. For all you know, the money you gave went to a widowed mother and her three children who is now working to put those children through college.
Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#14New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 03:01:26
For God's sake, who cares if people are worthy or not,that is a value judgement. Unless you know all the struggles humans go through you cannot say why some people have a hard time looking after themselves. Whether it's due to mental illness or a horrible upbringing ,not everybody gets the same chances that others do. It is admirable that you are able to look after yourself,but ask this question, if you were born to a crack addicted prostitute would you have been able to be so self sufficent?Just a Guess dorky supergirl,but I bet you live in Alberta? Just Wondering.
mr_ash On January 08, 2013




, United Kingdom
#15New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 03:04:16
@squirt_aka_casey Said
There needs to be a line drawn, yes, when that help becomes mooching, and giving to them is no longer helping them, but, if you give the correct help, you should never have to reach that line.


That line can never be found casey. That's the problem. Only perfection could find the line. And most of us know that perfection cannot be accomplished.
@squirt_aka_casey Said

No, you did right, bc it was not you who caused the poverty.


Did I do right? And did the other millions do right?

Is one [metaphorical] person in college fair when 100,000 others die?

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If creating mass poverty is right for a few scholars, then where is wrong?
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