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bendover On November 25, 2007

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Muff, Ireland
#1New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 21:45:32
A religious ban on stunning animals before they are killed for halal or kosher meat is flawed, experts from Bristol University said yesterday. Muslim and Jewish law says the animal must be drained of its blood - and this can only be achieved if it is conscious.

Bristol University, has found that the same amount of blood is lost if the animal is stunned first, as would be the normal method in the UK of slaughtering animals for human consumption..

Campaigners believe the this method of slaughter causes unnecessary suffering and want the practice of killing animals that have not been stunned before death banned.

The problem with this campaign will be that the faiths will see it as yet another attack on their faith from the Christian faith.
animal_rescue On August 11, 2011




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#2New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 21:46:46
So they have to stun the animal before the kill it?
perspicacious On November 28, 2014




?, United Kingdom
#3New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 21:49:49
@bendover Said
A religious ban on stunning animals before they are killed for halal or kosher meat is flawed, experts from Bristol University said yesterday. Muslim and Jewish law says the animal must be drained of its blood - and this can only be achieved if it is conscious.

Bristol University, has found that the same amount of blood is lost if the animal is stunned first, as would be the normal method in the UK of slaughtering animals for human consumption..

Campaigners believe the this method of slaughter causes unnecessary suffering and want the practice of killing animals that have not been stunned before death banned.

The problem with this campaign will be that the faiths will see it as yet another attack on their faith from the Christian faith.




If the science says the religious rules can be followed by stunning first, I doubt the Muslims will have a problem.
treebee On April 13, 2015
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London, United Kingdom
#4New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 21:50:50
how do they slaughter kosher meat? do they hang it alive and slit its throat?
perspicacious On November 28, 2014




?, United Kingdom
#5New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 21:51:45
They slit its throat first then hang it upside down to drain the blood.
treebee On April 13, 2015
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London, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 21:52:41
It seems extremely barbaric but i doubt it will change
perspicacious On November 28, 2014




?, United Kingdom
#7New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 21:53:59
No more barbaric than our methods I would suggest.
treebee On April 13, 2015
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#8New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 21:54:34
I say seems because i know f*** all about farming meat to be honest
st0nerdude On March 28, 2009




pfft, Denmark
#9New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 22:00:12
sheep are stupid: eat them
bendover On November 25, 2007

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Muff, Ireland
#10New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 22:10:26
I've been in slaughter houses were animals have been killed by both methods and I'll be honest my first visit to our normal slaughter house really did shock me.

The slaughtermen were physcos who really enjoyed their work and they sang cowboy songs as the cattle came up the ramp to be stunned and then slaughtered. The man with the stun gun straddled the shoot the animals came up and fires the compressed air powered captive bolt into the cows brain. In an instant the animal is dead. It falls and the gillotine is so quick you barey see the head drop of. The hind leg is hooked and the carcase is raised up and swings into the line of butchers who each has a specific task. Within two minutes of walking up the ramp the animal is dead, skinned, disemboweled, quartered and inspected for quality.

However my first visit to a Halal run slaughterhouse really freaked me out. The animals were much more aware of what was coming their way and when they had their throats sliced it was much more a hands on operation using a knife and the animals really took time to die.

Sorry if I was too graffic in this post but there's no sanitised way to describe what happens.
markfox01 On October 29, 2018
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Welshman in Brum.., United Kin
#11New Post! Nov 30, 2006 @ 22:11:10
@perspicacious Said
They slit its throat first then hang it upside down to drain the blood.


Thats right... its sick..
bigpete On April 20, 2008




Cardiff, United Kingdom
#12New Post! Dec 04, 2006 @ 22:53:20
Babaric and vile and archaic and brutal and uneccersary and wrong happening right here right now and in a town near you.

I eat meat because i am a canivore. horrible really if you think about it but I am and its in my genes to eat it. We have done it since before we walked upright. We have however moved on from cro-magnon man and have found relativley humane ways of slaughter. Well, some of us have.
politics On September 10, 2013




London`, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Dec 05, 2006 @ 02:53:03
ive seen the hallal method and to be honest its not that freaky cuz basicly when its throat is slit it is very calm its not kicking its legs out its just calm ..its wierd u say they know whats coming to them cuz the animals are not meant to be allowed to see each other being killed. unlike the slaughter house where there qued up.. maybe the jewish way is differnt to the muslim way? but in the muslim way they can not be in view of each other ,,
perspicacious On November 28, 2014




?, United Kingdom
#14New Post! Dec 05, 2006 @ 02:54:29
@politics Said
..its wierd u say they know whats coming to them cuz the animals are not meant to be allowed to see each other being killed.


He made that bit up.
brainfarmer On February 09, 2007




huddersfield, United Kingdom
#15New Post! Dec 05, 2006 @ 06:23:08
lets face it slaughtering animals is a process most of us find pretty horrible which ever method is used. to me its a simple fact of which is the most humane and if stunning is then neither jews or muslims have a right to use any other method, if they find that unacceptable then go veggie.
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