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cobber On July 22, 2006

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#1New Post! Mar 01, 2006 @ 11:25:36
I watched part of a show called "Beyond Tomorrow" which is about new technology out and coming out.

What I saw(what I saw of it) shocked me!

To demonstrate just how easy it is to log into a person's mobile/cell phone, a man used a laptop to tap into the GSM Towers, entered a person's phone number then traced where he was.

When they got to the building where he was, they went to the top of an adjacent building then, using Blue Tooth technology between his laptop and mobile/cell phone, he got into the man's phone which then called him back. As soon as his phone rang, we could hear everything being said on the other end. This enabled the man demonstrating this, to spy on what was being said at the financial cost of the owner of the phone being tapped into.

Is it just me, or is this a scary example of how we have allowed our privacy to be torn apart?

Imagine how long governments have already been using this technology against us already?
cheerupemokid On April 11, 2007




York, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Mar 01, 2006 @ 12:06:13
shaggyjebus On August 26, 2008

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#3New Post! Mar 01, 2006 @ 12:19:27
That's why you shouldn't do anything too personal on a cell phone or any other sort of mobile device. People put too much trust into those things, and they are too easily to manipulate.
alljive On March 03, 2007




trondheim, Norway
#4New Post! Mar 01, 2006 @ 13:14:18
Privacy is being redefined as our society progresses.

It is likely that we, for a period of time and only most of us, will be giving up our anonymity. But never privacy, that is just redefined to suit.

Don't believe me? That's ok, but I'll say this:
-beating your kids was once considered a private matter of raising said brat.
-beating your wife was once considered in the very same way as the above.

These used to be items of privacy, but we changed the definition of what is private to fit our societys trends of social development.

Everybody knowing where you are if they want to? Your purchases registered, your calls and interests as well? Just get used to it, total surveilance WILL be a fact in not too many years, and we WILL accept it. Why? Because we won't see any of it as intrusions. Our kids grow up used to the idea.

I'm all for it.
cobber On July 22, 2006

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#5New Post! Mar 01, 2006 @ 13:18:28
@alljive Said
Privacy is being redefined as our society progresses.

It is likely that we, for a period of time and only most of us, will be giving up our anonymity. But never privacy, that is just redefined to suit.

Don't believe me? That's ok, but I'll say this:
-beating your kids was once considered a private matter of raising said brat.
-beating your wife was once considered in the very same way as the above.

These used to be items of privacy, but we changed the definition of what is private to fit our societys trends of social development.

Everybody knowing where you are if they want to? Your purchases registered, your calls and interests as well? Just get used to it, total surveilance WILL be a fact in not too many years, and we WILL accept it. Why? Because we won't see any of it as intrusions. Our kids grow up used to the idea.

I'm all for it.


Why are you for it?

Comparing this to child and wife abuse is ridiculous.

People will except it as we have become the stupid drones of globalism and ever controlling government.

People should not fear government. Government should fear the people.
seekurbliss On January 22, 2007




Memphis, Tennessee
#6New Post! Mar 01, 2006 @ 13:18:30
I have "code words" that i use when on my cell at times...
just to be safe!






@cobber Said
People should not fear government. Government should fear the people.


True but not likely to ever happen- on any large scale, i mean.


alljive On March 03, 2007




trondheim, Norway
#7New Post! Mar 03, 2006 @ 14:13:13
well cobber..
I am for it because I see it as the fastest, though naturally not the only, way to get humanity to the evolutionary (both technological and social) state it needs to get to in order to permanently escape the most pressing trifles we think hold us back now. Such as food shortage, poverty, and unstable conditions of safety.

Since you miss my point about the wife and child abuse to such an exstent that you find it ridiculous, it is obvious that there would be little point in attempting to explain it further. Our perspectives differ.
cobber On July 22, 2006

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#8New Post! Mar 03, 2006 @ 14:20:04
@alljive Said
well cobber..
I am for it because I see it as the fastest, though naturally not the only, way to get humanity to the evolutionary (both technological and social) state it needs to get to in order to permanently escape the most pressing trifles we think hold us back now. Such as food shortage, poverty, and unstable conditions of safety.


Governments with greater power hold the people to ransom. This is de-evolution.

@alljive Said
Since you miss my point about the wife and child abuse to such an exstent that you find it ridiculous, it is obvious that there would be little point in attempting to explain it further. Our perspectives differ.



No need to be like that.
alljive On March 03, 2007




trondheim, Norway
#9New Post! Mar 03, 2006 @ 14:40:53
This is the way I belive it is going(gimme a break, I'm not saying tomorrow either) :
We will have a central governmental body, call it Earth one if you want to, which coordinates and updates the autonomous regional areas under it. No way of telling how many areas, or what criteria they will be classed under, but specialisation of production will be fact so it is likely that the new sectors(that will be unbound to current nations)will be constructed according to that.
How the governing itself is done is impossible to guess. It will not be a democrasy as that ceases to work properly once you get enough people ruled by it(there's just too many that are not satisfied, by sheer numbers). Likely, to my mind, is a some sort of beurocratic technocrasy.
there will be no nations as they are known today, and it IS likely that a new pan-religious philosohpy will replace most of the older religions as information becomes ever more readily available.

We might blow up ourselves first, but if we don't then this is what I belive will happen(more or less). For this to be a good thing free information is a MUST.

Once every part of the planet is dependent on every other part for survival and growth, war between any part of it and any other part will be far too costly to contemplate seriously for anyone but the Religiously or philosophically motivated. These people, willing to take up arms for these reasons, will never become anything other than a minor neusance as there is heavy economic incentive to prevent such things.

Who would this government hold the people for ransom to? What Ransom would they be asking? And why would it not be seen and stopped if the two first were somehow provided? I did mention free information as part of the equation here.

Again, I belive there is little point in my having written this. But by all means, go ahead
cobber On July 22, 2006

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#10New Post! Mar 04, 2006 @ 08:57:08
@alljive Said
Once every part of the planet is dependent on every other part for survival and growth, war between any part of it and any other part will be far too costly to contemplate seriously for anyone but the Religiously or philosophically motivated. These people, willing to take up arms for these reasons, will never become anything other than a minor neusance as there is heavy economic incentive to prevent such things.

Who would this government hold the people for ransom to? What Ransom would they be asking? And why would it not be seen and stopped if the two first were somehow provided? I did mention free information as part of the equation here.


An interesting point of view.

There is no way, in my opinion, that a one world government could ever work. People working for it under the guise of Big Business.

It is nature to war over territory among every species of animals. There are many races of people, of tribes. See them as different species if you must.

They will continue to war as to stop doing so, is against nature. You only have to look at nations where the Black populations have control of their governments. There policies depend on the tribes. Similar, Australia had an Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander Council called, "ATSIC". This council was abolished due to the extreme bias taken by ATSIC as they sent funds depending on whether they liked the tribe or not.

A world government would have to image the European Union(EU) in some manner and the EU is not working too well as the larger nations dictate and dominate over the smaller nations.
alljive On March 03, 2007




trondheim, Norway
#12New Post! Mar 04, 2006 @ 11:56:58
cobber.

If you think anything run by people coloured by black people returns to tribabl politics, we have little to discuss. Because, honestly man, that statement shouldn't even NEED a refutal in my opinion.

You seem to think race is eternal, you seem to think race means different thinking, you seem to think there is no social evoloution. These are things I do not share your perspectives in.
We differ so much in perspective that I simply do not know how to bridge the gap.
Like I said, it was a wasted effort.
cobber On July 22, 2006

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#13New Post! Mar 04, 2006 @ 12:06:37
@alljive Said
cobber.

If you think anything run by people coloured by black people returns to tribabl politics, we have little to discuss. Because, honestly man, that statement shouldn't even NEED a refutal in my opinion.

You seem to think race is eternal, you seem to think race means different thinking, you seem to think there is no social evoloution.


I was stating a fact. Look at the African nations. Look at how ATSIC handed welfare to differing tribes. By observing what they do, we can see what happens.

Race can and does mean different thinking. It does because the culture surrounding a race forms the thinking. It is not seeing one race as better than the other.

There is such thing as social evolution but to try to remove people away from their natural instincts is deceiving. Even though we have lost much of our instincts of surviving in the wild as we have become seperated from nature and dependant upon concrete cities, our behaviour still remains intuitive. Just in differing forms.

We are territorial over the land we live on. The house we live in. The nation we live in.

Around the world, we are seeing races segregate naturally. In America, they are now finding schools solely for "African American's" as their learning styles is different from caucasians and asians.

Your postings aren't a waste. I enjoy them.
alljive On March 03, 2007




trondheim, Norway
#14New Post! Mar 04, 2006 @ 12:36:05
.. but cobber, you say it yourself!!

It's not race, it's culture! Which means it's upbringing, and not RACE that makes idiots.

You can be white as the driven snow and be raised by aboriginees, that wouldn't be likely to make you an investment banker now would it? There are no Racially spesific social behaviours, it is ALL education from your surroundings.

There IS no difference between caucasians and asians, but there are differences between various cultures(regardless of race).

Though it is true that humans do have a tendency to protect their flock from anything coming from the outside, this does not make for any sort of unbridgable gap between individuals. Some cultures are obviously not compatible with some others, and that is the problem for the cultures involved, but RACE does not define culture. EVER.

And there are exceptions from this so called "basic human trait"..

I harbour no feelings of patriotism, I see partrotism as one of the most dangerous diseases on the planet, and will not be defending the ill deeds of norway any time soon. Nationality, race, gender, sexual preference... etc, make no difference to me. Only the ideas you uphold, only the choices you make, only you as an individual count. Anything else, is to me nothing but excuses for not using your brain.
BabyRS On February 14, 2015




, Singapore
#15New Post! Mar 04, 2006 @ 12:49:47
"Only the ideas you uphold, only the choices you make, only you as an individual count. Anything else, is to me nothing but excuses for not using your brain." - Alljive

Adapting to a situation often means a little compromise on your part, and one's beliefs. It does not mean that you change according to the ebb and flow, rather - sometimes we do have to make allowances in order to "keep the peace".

Our ideas, our choices are ours to make and we face the consequences for our decisions... but often, in the real world - a person's commitments would dictate his choices. One cannot just go according to one's whims when there is a family to think of, or maybe when a whole group of people will somehow be influenced by what we decide. In fact, when making decisions that will have due effect NOT primarily to oneself - we may have to use our brains a little bit more.

That would be what I think, anyhow - unless I read your statement wrong.
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