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ronyvo On July 04, 2018




Ft.Lauderdale, Florida
#1New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 15:59:01
Our God and allah
Some people think that the Muslim?s god and our (the Christians) God are the same.
This is, definitely, NOT TRUE.
Muslim advocates in the West are trying very hard to justify the legitimateness of Islam as a peaceful ?religion?, especially after 9/11/01.
Out of desperation they use lies (deception) and double talk, which is allowed in Islam.
They use money, sex, race and terror (fear) to lure Americans to Islam.
Their god (Allah) is a god of hate. He instructs and encourages them to instill terror in the heart of non-Muslims and kill them (Surah 8:13-17 & many others). The Koran is full with ?fight? and ?kill?.
One must acknowledge that Allah is not in harmony with our God.
Jesus taught, ?Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you and persecute you.? Math 5:44
Ironically, they call the Christians INFIDELS because they believe (ignorantly) that Christians worship 3 gods (the Holy Trinity). Mohammad fails to understand monotheism. However, it is not enough to say there is only one God if you point at the wrong God.
The Muslims however, give Mohammad an equal position as Allah if not more importance.
In order to be a Muslim you have to say the shehada ?there is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his messenger?. If one cite the first part only, he cannot be a Muslim, he must cite the second part pertaining Mohammad
Also, if they claim that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, do they believe that Jesus Christ is God? No, they don?t.

Christians? God, the Lord Jesus Christ is a God of love, peace and mercy.
He forbade his followers from using the sword (Mathew 26:52).
When He was on earth He cured the sick healed the blind. Mohammad didn?t.
Jesus came to save lives (Luke 9:56). Mohammed came to destroy lives (Surah 48:16?.).
There is much more to be said to prove that our God has nothing to do with Allah.
No way those 2 Gods are the same.

Even Abraham of the Bible is not Abraham of the Koran:
a) The Bible says that Abraham?s father?s name was Terah, but the Koran says Azar (Surah6:74).
b) Isaac was the one to be sacrificed not Ishmael (surah 37:100)
c) He had eight sons not just two as the Koran claims.
d) He had 3 wives and not 2.
e) He did not live and worshiped in the valley of Mecca (surah 14:37) but in Hebron.
f) He did not build the Kabah. The Kabah was not built by Adam and then rebuilt by Abraham. It was built by the pagans to worship a black rock which fell out of the sky.
g) Nimrod did not throw Abraham into fire (surah 21:68.69 & 9:69).Nimrod lived many centuries before Abraham.

Conclusion: Christianity and Islam has NOTHING to do with each other
alexkidd On February 07, 2012
Captain Awesome!


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in a bog, Ireland
#2New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:02:11
Conclusion: you're wrong.
markfox01 On October 29, 2018
innit!





Welshman in Brum.., United Kin
#3New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:04:09
I second that.
Vizzy On February 20, 2012




, Florida
#4New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:06:16
Ummmmm, it is the same Abraham and Isaac.

Why am I bothering? This only gets me all pissy.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
Bringer of rad mirth


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Here and there,
#5New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:06:17
Not much of anything you said in that post is even close to being correct.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
Bringer of rad mirth


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Here and there,
#6New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:06:48
On second thought, maybe I should send this as a PM.

I wouldn't want to hurt the OP's feelings by pointing out that they said something incorrect publicly.
Danger_Mouse On June 29, 2017




Christchurch, New Zealand
#7New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:07:45
@ronyvo Said
Our God and allah
Some people think that the Muslim?s god and our (the Christians) God are the same.
This is, definitely, NOT TRUE.
Muslim advocates in the West are trying very hard to justify the legitimateness of Islam as a peaceful ?religion?, especially after 9/11/01.
Out of desperation they use lies (deception) and double talk, which is allowed in Islam.
They use money, sex, race and terror (fear) to lure Americans to Islam.
Their god (Allah) is a god of hate. He instructs and encourages them to instill terror in the heart of non-Muslims and kill them (Surah 8:13-17 & many others). The Koran is full with ?fight? and ?kill?.
One must acknowledge that Allah is not in harmony with our God.
Jesus taught, ?Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you and persecute you.? Math 5:44
Ironically, they call the Christians INFIDELS because they believe (ignorantly) that Christians worship 3 gods (the Holy Trinity). Mohammad fails to understand monotheism. However, it is not enough to say there is only one God if you point at the wrong God.
The Muslims however, give Mohammad an equal position as Allah if not more importance.
In order to be a Muslim you have to say the shehada ?there is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his messenger?. If one cite the first part only, he cannot be a Muslim, he must cite the second part pertaining Mohammad
Also, if they claim that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, do they believe that Jesus Christ is God? No, they don?t.

Christians? God, the Lord Jesus Christ is a God of love, peace and mercy.
He forbade his followers from using the sword (Mathew 26:52).
When He was on earth He cured the sick healed the blind. Mohammad didn?t.
Jesus came to save lives (Luke 9:56). Mohammed came to destroy lives (Surah 48:16?.).
There is much more to be said to prove that our God has nothing to do with Allah.
No way those 2 Gods are the same.

Even Abraham of the Bible is not Abraham of the Koran:
a) The Bible says that Abraham?s father?s name was Terah, but the Koran says Azar (Surah6:74).
b) Isaac was the one to be sacrificed not Ishmael (surah 37:100)
c) He had eight sons not just two as the Koran claims.
d) He had 3 wives and not 2.
e) He did not live and worshiped in the valley of Mecca (surah 14:37) but in Hebron.
f) He did not build the Kabah. The Kabah was not built by Adam and then rebuilt by Abraham. It was built by the pagans to worship a black rock which fell out of the sky.
g) Nimrod did not throw Abraham into fire (surah 21:68.69 & 9:69).Nimrod lived many centuries before Abraham.

Conclusion: Christianity and Islam has NOTHING to do with each other


Surely, by creating this post, you are only doing what you accuse Islam of doing.

Why o why cant man just realise that we are all the same. The colour of our skin may be different, our beliefs in our gods may be different but both of these should be reasons to love, embrace and learn from each other. Not find ways to hate and hurt each other.

I am an athiest. I believe there is something out there but what I don't know. I wouldn't expect anyone to berate me for my beliefs likewise I would never berate anyone for theirs.
hedkandi1984_21 On July 23, 2013




London, United Kingdom
#8New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:11:54
Ok, I have two thoughts.

One: bollocks.

Two: why does it have to be versus anything? Why can't people just learn to live in harmony without bringing religion into anything?! I am an atheist but I have family and friends who are Christian and friends who are Muslim. We all get along fine and religion never comes up!
stumblinthrulife On April 16, 2008

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Lake Saint Louis, Missouri
#9New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:17:38
The thing to remember is that the average Muslim on the street has little innate animosity toward us, any more than the average German hated Jews in the 40s. It all comes down to a charismatic a*****e leading people into hatred and violence. Get the right charismatic a*****e in office here and we'd be bombing the s*** out of most of the world. Oh, wait...


The average Muslim is just like the average Jew, is just like the average Christian, is just like the average atheist, etc... We're all just trying to get on with life, put food on the table and build a better life for our families.
kit On January 24, 2014




Fife, United Kingdom
#10New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:21:54
@jonnythan Said
On second thought, maybe I should send this as a PM.

I wouldn't want to hurt the OP's feelings by pointing out that they said something incorrect publicly.


Now I wonder where you got that idea from...

I couldn't be bothered reading the whole OP, so I'm not going to comment, appart from the fact that what I did read sounded like a load of BS.
newlander On February 05, 2011




Glasgow, United Kingdom
#11New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:33:13
Ronyvo.

You are what is wrong with this world. Christianity and Islam have one fundamental fact that links them. They are both organised religion, followed en mass by millions of people. This means that they have alot to do with one another and have more in common than you care to admit.

Also Christians have in the past killed in the name of Christianity, and christians today are still capable of extramist views.

All religions are equal, once everyone realises that then we may get world peace. Either that or the world population needs to renounce all religion
raditz8526 On July 02, 2009

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, Minnesota
#12New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:38:17
@stumblinthrulife Said
Get the right charismatic a*****e in office here and we'd be bombing the s*** out of most of the world.



kit On January 24, 2014




Fife, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:39:36
@stumblinthrulife Said
The average Muslim is just like the average Jew, is just like the average Christian, is just like the average atheist, etc... We're all just trying to get on with life, put food on the table and build a better life for our families.


Except for the fact that two of those three are also trying to get a decent afterlife
stumblinthrulife On April 16, 2008

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Lake Saint Louis, Missouri
#14New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:42:02
@newlander Said
All religions are equal


The only way that all religions can be equal is if all of them are wrong. Most religions teach that they are exclusively correct. They can't all be exclusively correct, so one must be right and one must be wrong. Further more, most religions preach that if someone believes differently to you, it is your duty to convert them. Not just that, but that listening to the teachings of another religion is wrong. This is why peoples of differing faith will never be able to get along.

From the point of view of an atheist, all religions are equal, because they are all equally wrong. But even that places atheism above religion, so it still creates an exclusionist (did I just make that word up?) society.

So, in short, we will never all be able to get along perfectly. Even if you managed the impossible, and irradiated all religious beliefs from the 6 billion some people on the planet, we'd all start arguing about the details of evolution.

The basic human condition is conflict.
shadowy On March 20, 2014




Glasgow, United Kingdom
#15New Post! Nov 13, 2007 @ 16:45:02
2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

The Lord is a man of war. Exodus 15:3

Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: Psalm 144:1


Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

I see a lot in common with both religions good and bad but for a hypocritical bigot like you are to claim a load of rubbish like you just did gives me doubts about the goodness of christianity
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