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allentx On June 11, 2009

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allen,
#1New Post! Jan 26, 2009 @ 22:03:45
Ok let me get some opinions from Atheists on this board regarding this:

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new student to stand and......

Prof: So you believe in God?

Student: Absolutely, sir.

Prof: Is God good?
Student:Sure

Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help other who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good them? Hmm?

(Student is silent).

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is god good?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No

Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God...

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isnt't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?
Student does not answer.

Prof: is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So who created them?
Student has no answer.

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observer the world around you. Tell me, son..Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have heard your God?
Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes,

Prof: Accordig to empirical, testable, demonstratable protocol, science says your GOD does not exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student: Professor, is tehre such a thin as heat?
Prof: Yes.

Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.

Student: No Sir. There isn't

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't ahve anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but cwe can't go any further than that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.


(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkenss is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, somethign we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.


Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evovled from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course I do

Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)


Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in an uproar)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)


Student: Is there anyone who has ever heard the Professor's, brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due resepect, sir, how do we trust your lectures, sir?


(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable)

Professor: I guess you'll have to take them on fait, son.

Student: that is it sir...The link between man & God is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving and alive.

WANT TO KNOW WHO THAT STUDENT WAS?


Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, who was previously the President of India
Elite_Dragon On December 24, 2016
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Chesterfield, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Jan 26, 2009 @ 22:16:47
wow that was a really amazing read...kudos
allentx On June 11, 2009

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allen,
#3New Post! Jan 26, 2009 @ 22:25:14
Yes this is one of my favorites!
alexkidd On February 07, 2012
Captain Awesome!


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in a bog, Ireland
#4New Post! Jan 26, 2009 @ 22:26:04
well for one it never happened,
It's an email that circulated and the name has been attributed form everyone to this guy to Albert Einstein.
It was written by a person as religious propaganda, it is not an actual account of a real event.

But what of the argument?
Its a classic case of a 'strawman' argument,
which entails creating your own, weaker form of opposition, in this case atheists and then discrediting them.

So the professor in this story is an idiot first of all.

Having no evidence for something does not make it untrue, it simply makes it unknown also seeing something happen directly right in front of you is not the only evidence for something.
I come home and find all my stuff gone and my window broken, i don't have to think 'well it couldn't of been burglars, i didn't see any'

So the argument they make and seem to overcome is not the argument actual atheists make, so they're arguing with their own perception of what atheists think, not what they actually believe.
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