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Jennifer1984 On about 20 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Jun 12, 2020 @ 06:42:34
Right Wing Extremists Jailed

A group calling itself "National Action" has been banned in UK since 2016. They tried (and failed) in several attempts to remain active by re-branding themselves to get around the ban. That failed too. Eventually the four in the article were convicted in March of being members of a proscribed organisation.

Question 1. Does anybody think that organisations such as this have a justifiable claim to being legitimate political movements..?

Question 2. Have any such organisations been banned in the US or any other state with members in this forum, and if so, have any of their adherents been convicted of offences..?
bob_the_fisherman On July 02, 2020
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, Angola
#2New Post! Jun 12, 2020 @ 10:28:51
Does Jeremy Corbyn still endorse terrorist organisations?
Jennifer1984 On about 20 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#3New Post! Jun 13, 2020 @ 05:57:44
@bob_the_fisherman Said

Does Jeremy Corbyn still endorse terrorist organisations?



Probably. But he's not in office anymore.

You could take the matter up with his constituents if you like, seeing as they're the only people he represents now.

The current Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition though, doesn't so I figure that particular dead cat has been removed from the table.
Jennifer1984 On about 20 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#4New Post! Jun 13, 2020 @ 16:01:52
The UK police and security services recognise extreme right wing terrorism as the fastest rising threat to national security.



Home Office Fact Sheet - Right Wing Terrorism



Snip:

Of the 561 individuals who were adopted to a local Channel panel in 2018/19, 254 were (45%) were referred for concerns related to right wing terrorism and 210 (37%) were referred for concerns related to Islamist terrorism.

Right wing extremists, the like of which are supported by Bob the Fisherman and Shadey are now becoming more dangerous to UK security than Islamists according to Home Office figures.
Jennifer1984 On about 20 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Jun 15, 2020 @ 08:31:07
Bulls***. False Association and typical Fascist propaganda.

Of course, it's intended to put me on the defensive and deflect me away from pointing out the extremists behaviour. Bob, you have no argument because I have refuted your relentless anti-Islamism on multiple occasions, and still you relentlessly strive to pervert every discussion on everything back to the only thing (you think) you know.

To you, every Muslim is a child rapist. To you, every non-white person is an evil that needs to be eradicated and all the claiming that "some of my best friends are Muslims" doesn't wash.

And I'm not going to be deflected by it.

Even the Home Office - thankfully their day to day work is run by Civil Servants and not the execrable Priti Patel - have recognised the increasing threat of right wing extremism.

Home Office Fact Sheet - Right Wing Extremism



Snip

Of the 561 individuals who were adopted to a local Channel panel in 2018/19, 254 were (45%) were referred for concerns related to right wing terrorism and 210 (37%) were referred for concerns related to Islamist terrorism.

From this we can see that right wing terrorism is a bigger threat than Islamist terrorism in UK now. From these figures we can see that, in fact, Right Wing terrorists now account for almost half of all referrals to the Channel panel in 2018/19.

This extremism was starkly demonstrated in London on Saturday as people like Bob made Nazi salutes in front of the statue of Churchill and urinated on memorials to police officers who had died in the line of duty.

If anybody makes justification for criminals on this forum, it isn't me.
bob_the_fisherman On July 02, 2020
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, Angola
#7New Post! Jun 15, 2020 @ 08:39:41
@Jennifer1984 Said

Bulls***. False Association and typical Fascist propaganda.

Of course, it's intended to put me on the defensive and deflect me away from pointing out the extremists behaviour. Bob, you have no argument because I have refuted your relentless anti-Islamism on multiple occasions, and still you relentlessly strive to pervert every discussion on everything back to the only thing (you think) you know.

To you, every Muslim is a child rapist. To you, every non-white person is an evil that needs to be eradicated and all the claiming that "some of my best friends are Muslims" doesn't wash.

And I'm not going to be deflected by it.

Even the Home Office - thankfully their day to day work is run by Civil Servants and not the execrable Priti Patel - have recognised the increasing threat of right wing extremism.

Home Office Fact Sheet - Right Wing Extremism



Snip

Of the 561 individuals who were adopted to a local Channel panel in 2018/19, 254 were (45%) were referred for concerns related to right wing terrorism and 210 (37%) were referred for concerns related to Islamist terrorism.

From this we can see that right wing terrorism is a bigger threat than Islamist terrorism in UK now. From these figures we can see that, in fact, Right Wing terrorists now account for almost half of all referrals to the Channel panel in 2018/19.

This extremism was starkly demonstrated in London on Saturday as people like Bob made Nazi salutes in front of the statue of Churchill and urinated on memorials to police officers who had died in the line of duty.

If anybody makes justification for criminals on this forum, it isn't me.



How many cops were injured during the "mostly peaceful protests" by BLM and their assortment of allies like Pantyfa?
gakINGKONG On about 4 hours ago




, Florida
#9New Post! Jun 16, 2020 @ 03:23:21
@Jennifer1984 Said

Bulls***. False Association and typical Fascist propaganda.

Of course, it's intended to put me on the defensive and deflect me away from pointing out the extremists behaviour. Bob, you have no argument because I have refuted your relentless anti-Islamism on multiple occasions, and still you relentlessly strive to pervert every discussion on everything back to the only thing (you think) you know.

To you, every Muslim is a child rapist. To you, every non-white person is an evil that needs to be eradicated and all the claiming that "some of my best friends are Muslims" doesn't wash.

And I'm not going to be deflected by it.

Even the Home Office - thankfully their day to day work is run by Civil Servants and not the execrable Priti Patel - have recognised the increasing threat of right wing extremism.

Home Office Fact Sheet - Right Wing Extremism



Snip

Of the 561 individuals who were adopted to a local Channel panel in 2018/19, 254 were (45%) were referred for concerns related to right wing terrorism and 210 (37%) were referred for concerns related to Islamist terrorism.

From this we can see that right wing terrorism is a bigger threat than Islamist terrorism in UK now. From these figures we can see that, in fact, Right Wing terrorists now account for almost half of all referrals to the Channel panel in 2018/19.

This extremism was starkly demonstrated in London on Saturday as people like Bob made Nazi salutes in front of the statue of Churchill and urinated on memorials to police officers who had died in the line of duty.

If anybody makes justification for criminals on this forum, it isn't me.


It is my heartfelt conviction that Bob is an actual anti-islamist.
chaski On about 11 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#10New Post! Jun 16, 2020 @ 04:38:14
@gakINGKONG Said

It is my heartfelt conviction that Bob is an actual anti-islamist.



Your attention to detail is astounding.
bob_the_fisherman On July 02, 2020
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, Angola
#11New Post! Jun 16, 2020 @ 06:52:09
@gakINGKONG Said

It is my heartfelt conviction that Bob is an actual anti-islamist.


Indeed. People can be Muslim if they want and I do not care, unless they follow Islam in the way Islamic writings describe Muhammad as doing and encouraging his followers to do.

Personally I am happy for people to do almost anything, but Muhammad had an amazing capacity to do all of the things I do not think people should be free to do.

He abused children.
He abused women.
He enslaved people (and said black people were basically made to be enslaved by Muslims).
He tortured and killed innocent people.
He encouraged his followers to do all of the above.

None of that would be a problem if Muslims were not doing these things, but the reality is that millions do at least some of them (and millions more support it).

Moral people oppose these vile practices, and therefore, by extension, they oppose Islam (not all Muslims), as many Muslims do not follow Islam, and do not engage in such depravity.

This nuance is able to be grasped by any but the most feeble (although to be fair, they know that myself and others like me are not opposed to Muslims. They just pretend they don't know so they can loudly proclaim to be in possession of a virtue they lack). As far as I am concerned, I do not care whether you are a Muslim, a Catholic or anything else. If you abuse children you are an excremental smear.
bob_the_fisherman On July 02, 2020
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, Angola
#12New Post! Jun 16, 2020 @ 06:53:02
@chaski Said

Your attention to detail is astounding.



Sarcasm from the Chaskiosaurus Rekt?

How rude
Jennifer1984 On about 20 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Jun 16, 2020 @ 17:29:01
Getting back on topic after all Bob's attempts at deflecting the discussion away from the subject matter......

The man who urinated on the memorial to PC Palmer during the extremist right-wing riots in London on Saturday, has been jailed for 14 days.

Andrew Banks Jailed For Urinating on Statue *

He claimed to have drunk 16 pints of lager the night before. That's two gallons of beer. Sheesh.... what sort of fantasy this bloke living in..? Not only is it not possible to drink that amount of fluid without drowning standing up (Hyponotremia), but that amount of beer would have led to alcohol poisoning.

These people try to big themselves up. Like...wearing military uniform to make themselves look heroic. There is a correct term for doing this: "Stolen Valour." Incidentally, it's a criminal offence in UK to wear MOD issue military clothing, emblems or medals to which you are not entitled. I hope the police start nicking them for that too.

The jailing of this man is especially pleasing. Not necessarily because it was "one of theirs" going to jail (and there are plenty of those for various crimes) but because it shows that the courts are not going to stand for fascists running amok on the streets.

More and longer sentences please, M'lud.



*My error... it should read "memorial" not statue


@gakINGKONG Said

It is my heartfelt conviction that Bob is an actual anti-islamist.


Thank you for that. It's not a difficult conclusion to come to, is it..?
bob_the_fisherman On July 02, 2020
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, Angola
#14New Post! Jun 16, 2020 @ 21:03:13
@Jennifer1984 Said

Getting back on topic after all Bob's attempts at deflecting


No deflection from me, Jen.

You constantly regale us with proclamations of moral virtue, yet never has that virtue been demonstrated.

Now you have a chance to show us some of these virtues. For example, Honesty. How many police were injured by those "peaceful protesters" you endorse, and how many police were injured by those "violent far right extremists"?

How did the "peaceful" protesters you support injure vastly greater numbers of police than the "violent" protesters you oppose?

Integrity: You claim to be peaceful, so condemn the violence coming from your side, and acknowledge that they were far more violent than the "violent" protesters as demonstrated by the facts.

I have no problem condemning the violence from "my" side. The attacks on police and lefty thugs were and are unacceptable.


@Jennifer1984 Said
Thank you for that. It's not a difficult conclusion to come to, is it..?


So why can't you come to it then?

Why can someone who barely takes an interest in this discussion figure out that I do not oppose Muslims, but rather, I oppose Islamic doctrines like the use of terror, murder and genocide, the abuse of women and children and the use of slaves, and, that I oppose Muslims who endorse and practice these types of thing (as, for the record, I oppose any one else who does these things)?
gakINGKONG On about 4 hours ago




, Florida
#15New Post! Jun 17, 2020 @ 02:35:32
@Jennifer1984 Said

Thank you for that. It's not a difficult conclusion to come to, is it..?



May it be known all throughout the land be ye a goat be ye a cat or be ye a very small mouse: No one not no how has ever never never refuted the simple and very obvious fact that Polarbear avatar Bob is not the friend of the Muhamedist which by extension also means that Bob could be a friend of the Jew and protector/defender against child-buggery.

Let us all be more like Bob. Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
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