Faith Vs. Religion

@Ratty Said

Faith has heart. Religion is rout, Faith has soul, religion is paced, faith has spirit. Religion has miles.

Faith is hopeful, religion feels old.

Faith is positive, religion is subjective.

Faith feels closer to nature, religion seems tired and old.......

Religion f***ing sucks d***.... sorry... couldn't help myself, the objective meter when out the window.......

@JorieJukebox Said

Religion is a label put on faith.
How can it be faith if you have to put a label on it?

@LuckyCharms Said



I don't think I've ever heard it put quite that succinctly but I can't say I disagree.

@Ratty Said

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have been so rude about it. Millions of people subscribe to one of the big 3. I'm a sort of history buff to a minor degree and history is just littered with pain, misery, death, and agony, all in the sake of some religious crusade of some sort.

I'm probably agnostic, if I were to label myself. I do at times find myself sorta envious of the believers. It must give them some sort of comfort on some level.

IDK, I get that scripture is at times not to be taken literally, and there actually is some good in some of the texts.

It's just people come along and sort muck it all up.

I've often said that Christianity is Ok, it's the damn Christians that grate my nerves.

@LuckyCharms Said

I kinda liked your phraseology.

Dear Jesus, please save me from your followers.

Seen that on more than one bumper sticker. Often thought it is highly appropriate.

@Ratty Said

LOL, phraseology, funny word.

I struggle with faith and religion. My succinct views as vulgarly expressed earlier do have some caveats and again, I am somewhat jealous of the believers, as I've mentioned.

I'm an INTJ personality type, so hard data and logical facts are an important thing for me. Religion requires me to shut off about 3/4 of my brain to be able to get a decent buy in.....

Not sure how many people feel the same way, but whatever, it is what it is.

Faith is a tough one too, because it too requires by definition a certain level of buy in that again, not sure if I can't get my head around.

Things noodle around in this noggin of mine, once there are hard to displace.......

@shinobinoz Said

I agree with you here. I have trouble with faith & most definitely religion. I like First Nations spirituality as it leaves your experiences personal for insight & self-diagnosing without imposing or forcing on others.

@Ratty Said

Without pandering I've often felt that the natives here seemed to be somewhat happy in their world views. They seemed to have a reverence for life the earth and appeared to be in harmony with nature, much more so than the European settlers that came here.

It's sad that they were considered "savages" by the whites coming to this continent. I'm forever embarrassed by that, but it is what it is at this point. I can't change history.

Like I posted, I can sport the spiritualy t shirt because I can get behind that mentality.

The s*** in the bible, IDK, I'm not sure if I'm buying those silly tales....

I believe Jesus was a good man just not sure about the other fables......

@Ratty Said

Religion is a mother f***er.

Gotta love that that s***........

@Ratty Said

I think the south Dakota pipeline folks have lost faith..................