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Leon On August 16, 2019




San Diego, California
#1New Post! Jul 15, 2019 @ 15:05:34
If you were President, and had a House majority and Senate supermajority on your side, how would you address issues with racism in our nation, and, if cost is involved, how would you pay for it?

For a summary of the issue, read below.

Xenophobic feelings and discriminatory actions towards non-white ethnic groups began as soon as Europeans set foot on American soil and continued through the centuries in removal and displacement of Native Americans, slavery and segregation of African-Americans, immigration bans on certain ethnic groups, and other practices.

Native Americans, who occupied much of the land in exclusivity for 10,000 years, were violently defeated in numerous clashes with white settlers that continued throughout the 1800s and forced to relocate through removal acts, practices that were later admired and modeled after by Nazi Germany’s Adolf Hitler, and eventually forced to culturally assimilate with white culture despite living in relocated reservations. Native Americans were granted universal citizenship in 1924, but today remain mired in higher rates of poverty and its associated issues than which is found the general population.

African Americans were forcibly brought over to the settlement colonies and eventual United States and sold into slavery until the early 1800s when the trans-Atlantic slave trade was outlawed. Slavery of African Americans continued in Southern states in the US until the end of the Civil War, upon which a series of Presidential and Congressional actions outlawed slavery, granted citizenship rights to all African Americans, and granted voting rights to all African Americans. For the next 100 years, however, relations between white Americans and African Americans continued to suffer. Harsh “Jim Crow” laws that permeated much of the South segregated them from interaction in public institutions, including schools. Discriminatory voting laws in these states were passed that purposely made it difficult for African Americans to vote. Vigilante justice practices such as mob lynchings targeted African Americans, often for fabricated and/or petty crimes. Even in the North, employment and housing discrimination practices permeated large Northern cities once African Americans started migrating to these cities in the early 1900s for better economic opportunity, resulting in inner city concentrations of African Americans and suburban “white flight”. Protests and its heavy media coverage in the mid-1900s led to a series of civil rights acts that outlawed these Jim Crow segregation laws, voting laws, and employment and housing discriminations, although it took several years, if not decades, for such practices to eventually cease.

Asian Americans, who came voluntarily to fill temporary employment needs during the 1800s, such as for railroad building and gold mining in the west, were also discriminated against via reactionary immigration bans in the late 1800s and early 1900s and, during World War II, via propaganda against and internment of Japanese Americans. Hispanic Americans were victimized as well during the anti-immigration wave of the late 1800s and early 1900s, being pressured to leave into Mexico, many of who were citizens.

All of these practices have been illegal for the most part in the past 50 years. This has resulted in a progression towards what many today claim, with exceptions in the fringe, an eradication of racism in mainstream society, especially when the 2008 election of Barack Obama as President seemed to symbolize a full acceptance of African Americans in American society.

However, racial divisions continue to remain evident. In housing, racial groups are still disproportionally clustered in regions in many cities and suburbs. Economic, education, and income inequality still largely exists between white Americans and minorities, as does the crime and arrest rate. The median income of African Americans and Native Americans is roughly 50-60% of that of white Americans, and the median income of Hispanic Americans is roughly 70%. This has further exacerbated by the US war on illicit drug trade over the past few decades, resulting in disproportional numbers of minorities being incarcerated and further permeating the education and income inequality of minorities. As a result of all this, stereotypes that, even if not in a blatant manner, have still led to discriminatory hiring, banking practices, policing, and other activity, a phenomenon known as “institutional racism”.

Asians have largely been the exception to the economic divide, as the median income of Asian Americans is actually higher than that of white Americans, and in recent decades, have largely been stereotypically viewed in more positive respects, such as in intelligence and in work ethic. They are now sometimes termed as a “model minority”. However, there is still some institutional racism at play even with this stereotyping, as it has resulted in discriminatory activity such as being encouraged to pursue technical careers over careers in education and other career paths, and being passed over for management positions in hiring practices.

Affirmative action, via a series of laws and policies, either forced or encouraged universities and employers to accept and hire minorities in order to combat racial inequality and institutional racism, starting after 1960s civil rights legislation ended Jim Crow laws and practices. Initially this manifested in specific quotas that forced universities and employers to meet, but, due to court rulings, these quotas have been replaced by goals that can be met instead via targeting and, more recently, largely non-direct practices. Some states have eliminated the practice altogether.

Recently, violent police interactions with African Americans have gained increased media scrutiny and resulting societal outrage, as well as a resulting increased distrust in the police according to polls. The 2016 election campaign of President Donald Trump has also reignited more direct racism, due to anti-immigrant rhetoric directed towards Latin American and Middle Eastern populations, and statistics have shown a 33% increase in active hate groups and hate crime since his election. This, along with the above mentioned distrust in police, has led to polls of the general population showing an increase of 20% over the past few years of those who view racism as a problem in the US.
gakINGKONG On about 4 hours ago




Angeles City, Philippines
#2New Post! Jul 15, 2019 @ 15:34:08
I would use my bully-pulpit to counter race-baiting and identity politics. I would promote the principles of liberty and self governance.

I would promote the breakup of big tech monopolies and speak out against deplatforming unpopular speech under the guise of zero-tolerance for hate—total hysteria.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#3New Post! Jul 15, 2019 @ 15:52:31
@gakINGKONG Said


I would promote the principles of liberty and self governance.

BUT

speak out against deplatforming unpopular speech



So you would both support and not support the First Amendment.

Interesting concept.
Leon On August 16, 2019




San Diego, California
#4New Post! Jul 16, 2019 @ 13:02:18
End war on drugs.

Pass nationwide legislation requiring remotely recording running body cams on all on-duty cops.

Pass nationwide legislation providing free undergraduate tuition for slave descendants earning below household median. Money to be paid for via a reduction in discretionary defense spending.

Pass nationwide legislation enabling simplifying transfer on death deeds.

Transfer and divide ownership of portion of unused federal land among all Native Americans.

Go color blind afterwards.
DiscordTiger On about 19 hours ago
The Queen of Random

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Emerald City, United States (g
#5New Post! Jul 16, 2019 @ 17:26:10
I think this is way bigger than a president and Congress. Local gov officials have to be on board to do anything about many institutional issues.
Like laws are great, but if the DA (who is elected - has racist beliefs they will use their discretion to keep things the same. It’s like that in everything, every agency, every part of gov.

We have come a long way, but frankly white supremacy is built into the culture and there is a s*** ton of work to do. We may never get rid of it, because of freedom of thought and the fear of the other, but we can strive to continue to grow and change things for the better.
It’s going to mean sacrifice and actual work. Time, money, power...possibly life. There isn’t any other way. It’s how slavery was abolished, civil rights were guaranteed, the right to vote...pretty much any progression has had a huge cost for both the minority group and the allies that fought with them.
bobbimay On about 8 hours ago




Tucson, Arizona
#6New Post! Jul 18, 2019 @ 11:12:49
@Leon Said

End war on drugs.

Pass nationwide legislation requiring remotely recording running body cams on all on-duty cops.

Pass nationwide legislation providing free undergraduate tuition for slave descendants earning below household median. Money to be paid for via a reduction in discretionary defense spending.

Pass nationwide legislation enabling simplifying transfer on death deeds.

Transfer and divide ownership of portion of unused federal land among all Native Americans.

Go color blind afterwards.


Hmmm my DNA has says I have two different American Native in my blood does that mean I get two lots??... it also said I have the blood of those from the Congo so I must have slave blood in me right??
Leon On August 16, 2019




San Diego, California
#7New Post! Jul 18, 2019 @ 13:47:45
@bobbimay Said

Hmmm my DNA has says I have two different American Native in my blood does that mean I get two lots??... it also said I have the blood of those from the Congo so I must have slave blood in me right??


It probably should be a reasonable percentage such as over 50% and some kind of proof of slave heritage.
gakINGKONG On about 4 hours ago




Angeles City, Philippines
#8New Post! Jul 19, 2019 @ 00:25:01
@DiscordTiger Said

I think this is way bigger than a president and Congress. Local gov officials have to be on board to do anything about many institutional issues.



There aren't many instances in the last 150 years a US government agency took over a civic institution and something good came of it.

I was going to say a good example is when the Boy Scouts re-imagined Halloween but that doesn't count because the Boy Scouts aren't part of the government and are now in the process of being disemboweled.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#9New Post! Jul 19, 2019 @ 00:47:49
@gakINGKONG Said

There aren't many instances in the last 150 years a US government agency took over a civic institution and something good came of it.

I was going to say a good example is when the Boy Scouts re-imagined Halloween but that doesn't count because the Boy Scouts aren't part of the government and are now in the process of being disemboweled.


So these agencies, which were created under Republican presidencies, were a waste...nothing good came of them?

Department of Agriculture = 1862 under Lincoln, Republican
National Institutes of Health = 1887 under Grover Cleveland, Democrat
Department of Commerce = 1903 under T. Roosevelt, Republican
Food and Drug Administration = 1906 under T. Roosevelt, Republican
Federal Power Commission = 1920 under William Harding, Republican
Commodities Exchange Authority = 1922 under William Harding, Republican
Federal Communications Commission = 1927 under Calvin Coolidge, Republican
Food and Drug Administration = 1931 under Hoover, Republican
Environment Protection Agency = 1970 under Nixon, Republican
Occupational Safety and Health Administration = 1970 under Nixon, Republican
Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms Agency = 1972 under Nixon, Republican
Federal Energy Administration = 1973 under Nixon, Republican
Drug Enforcement Agency = 1973 under Nixon, Republican
Atomic Energy Commission = 1973 under Nixon, Republican
Pension and Welfare Administration = 1974 under Nixon, Republican
Veterans Employment and Training Service = 1981 under Reagan, Republican
Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration = 1981 under Reagan, Republican
Department of Veterans Affairs = 1989 under George Bush Sr., Republican
Department of Homeland Security = 2002 under George W Bush, Republican

And soon to be the Space Force = Donald "Jesus our lord and savior" Trump, Republican.

Don't tax, but spend more!!!

gakINGKONG... you sure you aren't a closet Democrat?

Or just "s*** talking" the party line without any facts... again?
Leon On August 16, 2019




San Diego, California
#10New Post! Jul 19, 2019 @ 02:31:26
@chaski Said

So these agencies, which were created under Republican presidencies, were a waste...nothing good came of them?

Department of Agriculture = 1862 under Lincoln, Republican
National Institutes of Health = 1887 under Grover Cleveland, Democrat
Department of Commerce = 1903 under T. Roosevelt, Republican
Food and Drug Administration = 1906 under T. Roosevelt, Republican
Federal Power Commission = 1920 under William Harding, Republican
Commodities Exchange Authority = 1922 under William Harding, Republican
Federal Communications Commission = 1927 under Calvin Coolidge, Republican
Food and Drug Administration = 1931 under Hoover, Republican
Environment Protection Agency = 1970 under Nixon, Republican
Occupational Safety and Health Administration = 1970 under Nixon, Republican
Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms Agency = 1972 under Nixon, Republican
Federal Energy Administration = 1973 under Nixon, Republican
Drug Enforcement Agency = 1973 under Nixon, Republican
Atomic Energy Commission = 1973 under Nixon, Republican
Pension and Welfare Administration = 1974 under Nixon, Republican
Veterans Employment and Training Service = 1981 under Reagan, Republican
Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration = 1981 under Reagan, Republican
Department of Veterans Affairs = 1989 under George Bush Sr., Republican
Department of Homeland Security = 2002 under George W Bush, Republican

And soon to be the Space Force = Donald "Jesus our lord and savior" Trump, Republican.

Yeah, considering who Trump put in charge of these agencies, such as the EPA, it’s going to s***.

And they DID serve a purpose. The EPA does a lot more than just deal with carbon emissions. They and the FDA are the reason we have clean drinking water, are not killing ourselves with lead, poisonous pesticides, etc.

I guess we were living too long eh?


@chaski Said

Or just "s*** talking" the party line without any facts... again?


It’s astounding to me how complicit the GOP has become with Trump’s maelstrom of destruction..

Let’s see, this week alone...

....he used rhetoric usually reserved for blatant racists - at members of Congress no less, he led a rally that frightened scholars of Nazism, he surfaced in a video partying with Epstein verbally gawking with him at dancing young girls - including grabbing them and forcing his hands on their butts, and concrete evidence was released that he coordinated with Cohen in everything Cohen was found guilty and thrown in prison for in campaign violations.

Yet his approval rating among the GOP is as high as it has ever been.

The man can do absolutely nothing wrong.
gakINGKONG On about 4 hours ago




Angeles City, Philippines
#11New Post! Jul 19, 2019 @ 03:50:53
@Leon Said


Let’s see, this week alone...

....he used rhetoric usually reserved for blatant racists - at members of Congress no less, he led a rally that frightened scholars of Nazism, he surfaced in a video partying with Epstein verbally gawking with him at dancing young girls - including grabbing them and forcing his hands on their butts, and concrete evidence was released that he coordinated with Cohen in everything Cohen was found guilty and thrown in prison for in campaign violations.

Yet his approval rating among the GOP is as high as it has ever been.

The man can do absolutely nothing wrong.


Al Green files articles of impeachment . . .

all for giggles.

mrmhead On 16 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#12New Post! Jul 19, 2019 @ 11:55:49
@Leon Said

Yeah, considering who Trump put in charge of these agencies, such as the EPA, it’s going to s***.

And they DID serve a purpose. The EPA does a lot more than just deal with carbon emissions. They and the FDA are the reason we have clean drinking water, are not killing ourselves with lead, poisonous pesticides, etc.

I guess we were living too long eh?




It’s astounding to me how complicit the GOP has become with Trump’s maelstrom of destruction..

Let’s see, this week alone...

....he used rhetoric usually reserved for blatant racists - at members of Congress no less, he led a rally that frightened scholars of Nazism, he surfaced in a video partying with Epstein verbally gawking with him at dancing young girls - including grabbing them and forcing his hands on their butts, and concrete evidence was released that he coordinated with Cohen in everything Cohen was found guilty and thrown in prison for in campaign violations.

Yet his approval rating among the GOP is as high as it has ever been.

The man can do absolutely nothing wrong.


I heard (learned) the burning river in Cleveland, OH was a catalyst for the EPA.

And yes, we're living too long. Get back to poisoning our waterways with mining wastewater and that'll help the Social Security funding!
mrmhead On 16 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#13New Post! Jul 19, 2019 @ 12:07:01
@Leon Said


Yet his approval rating among the GOP is as high as it has ever been.

The man can do absolutely nothing wrong.



Parrots and lemmings

That is the trumpsterf***s base of support.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#14New Post! Jul 19, 2019 @ 15:29:47
@mrmhead Said

Parrots and lemmings

That is the trumpsterf***s base of support.



Trump Delusional Syndrome: Characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that Trump is the greatest president ever and/or is making America great again. Such delusions being contradicted by both reality and rational argument.

mrmhead On 16 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#15New Post! Jul 19, 2019 @ 17:20:11
@chaski Said

Trump Delusional Syndrome: Characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that Trump is the greatest president ever and/or is making America great again. Such delusions being contradicted by both reality and rational argument.




Would that be a defense strategy, or grounds for probable cause?
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