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Leon On May 10, 2021




San Diego, California
#1New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 22:00:36
So now suddenly, thousands of middle aged men and women are deeply hurt and upset that a few children's books that, just a few days ago, they never ever cared about, even thought about, or in some cases probably even heard of, will longer be published.

Okay, fine, maybe it’s not about the books themselves. Maybe its the idea of that decades-old relics of your childhood are somehow vanishing, or maybe it’s just another excuse to whine about and attack that “cancel culture” or “libs” in general. And given that there are literally hundreds of thousands of copies, if not millions, of each of these so-called banned book still in circulation and will continue to be in circulation, legally, long after this manufactured panic cry-fest is over, it is likely the latter.

So I’ll just clear a couple of things up. First of all, this is NOT a banning. Police are not going go door to door to confiscate your beloved copy. Heck, you can even carry it openly in public, and you won’t be breaking any law here. What simply happened is that a publisher decided it didn’t want to manufacture any new copies to sell. That’s it. All it it. Nothing to see here ladies and gentlemen.

So yes, you can still keep your copy of Mulberry Street and you are still allowed to look at it. It just so happens that I purchased this book right before the cease, not knowing that it would be ceased. So yeah, I guess I have a brand spanking new and unused money maker here. But I’ll keep it for its purpose, which was to introduce Seuss to my 4 year old son (along with several other Seuss books I purchased with it).

I didn’t know about the Chinese dude, so yeah I looked for it. It’s there. He is called a “Chinese Man” now, as Dr. Seuss himself apparently changed it in the 60’s, from “Chinaman”, as well as changed the coloring and got rid of the ponytail, due to sensitivity. Yes, Dr. Seuss himself was becoming aware, and altering his own work. Proving it was more the times than anything that was the cause of this, and that he could change as times evolve for the better, and probably would have done so himself even more so today.

If I were the publisher, I probably would have taken this course of action and just removed the offensive parts and kept publishing the books with them removed. But it is what it is, and the publisher has every right to do as it pleases.
someone_else_again On March 06, 2021
Really. Not a dude.





, Washington
#2New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 22:19:54
Another thing that this is not is "Dr. Seuss being cancelled."
mrmhead On about 8 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#3New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 23:01:11
I have dvd copy of Songs of the South
mrmhead On about 8 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#4New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 23:07:27
@Leon Said

So now suddenly, thousands of middle aged men and women are deeply hurt and upset that a few children's books that, just a few days ago, they never ever cared about, even thought about, or in some cases probably even heard of, will longer be published.

Okay, fine, maybe it’s not about the books themselves. Maybe its the idea of that decades-old relics of your childhood are somehow vanishing, or maybe it’s just another excuse to whine about and attack that “cancel culture” or “libs” in general. And given that there are literally hundreds of thousands of copies, if not millions, of each of these so-called banned book still in circulation and will continue to be in circulation, legally, long after this manufactured panic cry-fest is over, it is likely the latter.

So I’ll just clear a couple of things up. First of all, this is NOT a banning. Police are not going go door to door to confiscate your beloved copy. Heck, you can even carry it openly in public, and you won’t be breaking any law here. What simply happened is that a publisher decided it didn’t want to manufacture any new copies to sell. That’s it. All it it. Nothing to see here ladies and gentlemen.

So yes, you can still keep your copy of Mulberry Street and you are still allowed to look at it. It just so happens that I purchased this book right before the cease, not knowing that it would be ceased. So yeah, I guess I have a brand spanking new and unused money maker here. But I’ll keep it for its purpose, which was to introduce Seuss to my 4 year old son (along with several other Seuss books I purchased with it).

I didn’t know about the Chinese dude, so yeah I looked for it. It’s there. He is called a “Chinese Man” now, as Dr. Seuss himself apparently changed it in the 60’s, from “Chinaman”, as well as changed the coloring and got rid of the ponytail, due to sensitivity. Yes, Dr. Seuss himself was becoming aware, and altering his own work. Proving it was more the times than anything that was the cause of this, and that he could change as times evolve for the better, and probably would have done so himself even more so today.

If I were the publisher, I probably would have taken this course of action and just removed the offensive parts and kept publishing the books with them removed. But it is what it is, and the publisher has every right to do as it pleases.


So what about actors and frat boys showing up in 50yr old pictures in black-face?
Shouldn't they be afforded the same "forgiveness" that it was just what it was at the time?
mrmhead On about 8 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#5New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 23:10:45
@Leon Said

If I were the publisher, I probably would have taken this course of action and just removed the offensive parts and kept publishing the books with them removed. But it is what it is, and the publisher has every right to do as it pleases.



Wouldn't it be up to the author or whoever has the copyright?

The publisher could request the change.

I'm not sure how that stuff works.
Darkman666 On about 4 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#6New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 23:31:11
i remember when i was a kid, i showed the book, " dr. seuss are you my mother? " to my mom.

she looked at the cover of the book, and look at me, and said, " i hope kid find his mother. your lucky, you know who is your mother ! so, get me another beer! "
Leon On May 10, 2021




San Diego, California
#7New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 23:43:25
@mrmhead Said

So what about actors and frat boys showing up in 50yr old pictures in black-face?
Shouldn't they be afforded the same "forgiveness" that it was just what it was at the time?


Yes, especially if they are remorseful for their actions. But if they are steadfast and continue to perpetuate despite the knowledge they have now, that it is hurting others, then no.

I know there are some on here who will disagree with me on that.

@mrmhead Said

Wouldn't it be up to the author or whoever has the copyright?

The publisher could request the change.

I'm not sure how that stuff works.


I’m not sure, either, but looking at precedent illustrated earlier, Dr. Seuss would have probably changed it himself, and I’m sure his kin today would have no problem with it.
Leon On May 10, 2021




San Diego, California
#8New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 23:45:18
@Darkman666 Said

i remember when i was a kid, i showed the book, " dr. seuss are you my mother? " to my mom.

she looked at the cover of the book, and look at me, and said, " i hope kid find his mother. your lucky, you know who is your mother ! so, get me another beer! "


That wasn’t Dr. Seuss, but I know what book you’re talking about. I remember it as a kid and in fact got it for my kid recently. Another classic. It’s nice to relive some of these through purchases for my son.
Leon On May 10, 2021




San Diego, California
#9New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 23:46:01
@someone_else_again Said

Another thing that this is not is "Dr. Seuss being cancelled."


Indeed. Hundreds of books go out of print every year. Nothing new is going on.

Welcome back by the way!
someone_else_again On March 06, 2021
Really. Not a dude.





, Washington
#10New Post! Mar 03, 2021 @ 23:56:24
@Leon Said


Welcome back by the way!


Glad to be back with friendly faces. Facebook sucks. I miss you weirdos.
mrmhead On about 8 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#11New Post! Mar 04, 2021 @ 00:36:00
@Leon Said

Yes, especially if they are remorseful for their actions. But if they are steadfast and continue to perpetuate despite the knowledge they have now, that it is hurting others, then no.

I know there are some on here who will disagree with me on that.



I’m not sure, either, but looking at precedent illustrated earlier, Dr. Seuss would have probably changed it himself, and I’m sure his kin today would have no problem with it.



I agree with both.

Didn't one of his kids carry on "the spirit" of Dr Suess and either helped or approve of one of the recent movies? Someone would have had to have sold the rights.
someone_else_again On March 06, 2021
Really. Not a dude.





, Washington
#12New Post! Mar 04, 2021 @ 00:41:50
@mrmhead Said

I agree with both.

Didn't one of his kids carry on "the spirit" of Dr Suess and either helped or approve of one of the recent movies? Someone would have had to have sold the rights.


Random House, the publishing company, owns the rights. They made Dr Seuss Enterprises to deal with anything having to do with Dr Seuss things.
chaski On about 7 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#13New Post! Mar 04, 2021 @ 01:25:48
@someone_else_again Said

Another thing that this is not is "Dr. Seuss being cancelled."



chaski On about 7 hours ago
Stalker





Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#14New Post! Mar 04, 2021 @ 01:27:26
But come one everyone... this is a great opportunity to blame leftist liberals, i.e. Democrats.

Thanks Obama!

(And Shrillary... Nasty Woman... )
Leon On May 10, 2021




San Diego, California
#15New Post! Mar 04, 2021 @ 02:05:24
@someone_else_again Said

Glad to be back with friendly faces. Facebook sucks. I miss you weirdos.


Yeah I tried FB for a couple of years a while back. Nice to get in touch with a few people I hadn’t spoken with for years. But once that wore off, things sat. I don’t need them all knowing what I do every minute of the day. That ended that, and I’m happy not speaking with people for another decade or two.
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