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4d4m On about 2 hours ago




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#46New Post! Jun 03, 2020 @ 23:17:15
Well I'm not sure what the court could decide to do if, say, the city refused the decree. Generally the cases are settled in this fashion. It seems to work for the most part. Here is a list of cities the DOJ has dealt with from DOJ website

The taking over and consent decree are semantics. A federal oversight committee and federally appointed trainers while the department gets themselves right. I'm not sure what the most extreme judgement a federal judge could make.
4d4m On about 2 hours ago




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#47New Post! Jun 03, 2020 @ 23:18:36
This is a list of cities investigated from the DOJ website Not sure what the most extreme judgement a Federal Judge could decree.
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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#48New Post! Jun 03, 2020 @ 23:22:49
@4d4m Said

This is a list of cities investigated from the DOJ website Not sure what the most extreme judgement a Federal Judge could decree.


You can demand that all you want, but they are not "exactly like a plea bargain."

They are much closer to a Pretrial diversion (PTD), though a monitored Chapter 11 bankruptcy is a closer fit.
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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#49New Post! Jun 03, 2020 @ 23:34:00
Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis:

"“I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled...

The words ‘Equal Justice Under Law’ are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court.

This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding.

It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers.

The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation....

We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution.”
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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#50New Post! Jun 03, 2020 @ 23:48:53
I'm not sure what they think they are doing, but at least they are social distancing and wearing masks.

4d4m On about 2 hours ago




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#51New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 00:07:24
Yup, it seems to me there are always those "mall cop" kinda guys that want to be police because they want to beat people up, not necessarily serve their community. Weeding out these types should be the primary focus of departments during hiring, training and operating. Activities by police in violation of our constitutional rights erodes public support of law enforcement and the ability of good peace officers to do their job.
4d4m On about 2 hours ago




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#52New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 00:16:53
@4d4m Said

This is a list of cities investigated from the DOJ website Not sure what the most extreme judgement a Federal Judge could decree.


So from what I can see judgements would usually result in a monetary penalty by way of the civil court system against the municipality employing the offending officer. The officer(s) of course can be tried in criminal court. Title 11 chapter 341 of US Code gives local governments the ability to employ police.

A marshal may be appointed. A marshal is a federal officer of the court, and would act as the defacto police chief. Appointments of deputies are permitted but must be approved by the municipality. So technically the court could take the measure to replace the police chief.
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#53New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 00:17:51
@4d4m Said

The Albuquerque Police Dept after a number of incidences of officers using undo deadly force was investigated by the DOJ. As part of the agreement a Consent Decree was utilized as oversight. The Dept Chief was required to report on his judgement of any deadly force incident to the oversight committee set up by the DOJ. Here is another link to documents related to the settlement on the CIty of Albuquerque website.

Another example is the City of Newark NJ. This is the agreement reached between them and the Federal Government in District Court


im in albuquerque

DOJ did not make s*** better if you are brown

we had armed white supremacist in the f***ing streets this week harassing protesters and business owners and the cops did nothing.

its clear what side APD is on.

the system is broken, we had multiple police snipers ready to shoot citizens peacefully protesting. I know because they had to access our building to get one the roof to get in position. We have not had incidents of mass rioting and looting. If we were not already closed to the public because of pandemic we would have gone on lockdown. We did have staff in the buildings, because we are trying to keep some services running, we all have been working daily in shifts, even holidays to keep up because on the limit of people in buildings.



it doesn't f***ing matter.

but the f***ing proud boys can do what ever they damn well please.
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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#54New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 00:22:28
@4d4m Said


A marshal may be appointed. A marshal is a federal officer of the court, and would act as the defacto police chief....So technically the court could take the measure to replace the police chief.


Aside from that fact that not all "marshals" are U.S. Federal Marshals (i.e. members of the United States Marshals Service)....


Please feel free to present an example of a U.S. Federal Marshals being appointed to run a state or local police department or sheriff's office.

Before you seemed to be saying it happened... please present that.

Side note: While the U.S. Marshals Service is part of the DOJ, they are not part of the FBI.
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#55New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 00:30:44
@chaski Said

I'm not sure what they think they are doing, but at least they are social distancing and wearing masks.




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darkman666 8 minutes ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#56New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 00:45:12
@chaski Said

Aside from that fact that not all "marshals" are U.S. Federal Marshals (i.e. members of the United States Marshals Service)....


Please feel free to present an example of a U.S. Federal Marshals being appointed to run a state or local police department or sheriff's office.

Before you seemed to be saying it happened... please present that.

Side note: While the U.S. Marshals Service is part of the DOJ, they are not part of the FBI.


you see on more tv and movie in western shows in 60's. in real life, you probably wouldn't see it. you might see on tv show, like ' the untouchables ' or other police tv shows.
4d4m On about 2 hours ago




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#57New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 00:50:01
The term in the US Code used is "a marshal." It doesn't specify the US Federal Marshals service although I'm sure one of them would be a good candidate if the court decided to take such action. It goes on to say the marshal may appoint deputies, so technically the marshal could replace the entire police force. Those appointments however would have to be approved by the municipality.
mrmhead On 43 minutes ago




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#58New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 00:56:40
@chaski Said

Maybe it was a movie of a book...



Contagion, or Alien v Predator ?
4d4m On about 2 hours ago




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#59New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 01:04:31
Here's something I've noticed. The pandemic has taken away attention from the crisis with Iran and threat of a new war in the Middle East. The murder of Floyd and the reluctance of local authorities to arrest the offending officer resulted in violent protests. This has taken attention away from the pandemic.
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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#60New Post! Jun 04, 2020 @ 01:09:21
@4d4m Said

Here's something I've noticed. The pandemic has taken away attention from the crisis with Iran and threat of a new war in the Middle East. The murder of Floyd and the reluctance of local authorities to arrest the offending officer resulted in violent protests. This has taken attention away from the pandemic.



It’s all a massive conspiracy… Dr. Fauci worked with the Chinese to create the coronavirus to destroy Hong Kong protesters chances of becoming free to in additionally attacked United States and caused confusion so that Trump would pull Financial incentives from Hong Kong so that Chyna could crush the Hong Kong freedom movement… Meanwhile the USA falls into anarchy because of antifa, black lives matter and white racist… All perpetrated to lift up Trump to be the supreme Messiah God of the United States and crush us down in an economic depression That lifts up China, Russia, and Al-Qaeda… And probably Taliban as well.
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