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WASH On June 04, 2012




LINCOLN, California
#1New Post! Jul 30, 2009 @ 21:58:23
Fred Freenam 69 spent 22 years on death row for an1894 execution murderin 1984
Miguel Martinez spent 11 years. In 1984 he murdered a man during a robery.
Therw was no doubt that they did the deeds. They died of natural causes. The cost to the public was in the millions -- just keeping them alive. JUSTICE is served?
floydgirrl On October 08, 2022
Stalkee





Pope's Wine Celler, Holy See (
#2New Post! Jul 30, 2009 @ 22:02:54
It costs the public millions to keep them alive as well as kill them. What with the time they spend in appeals court and everything.
El_Tino On October 12, 2023
booyaka!





Albuquerque, New Mexico
#3New Post! Jul 30, 2009 @ 22:08:58
At the beginning of death penalty cases, they find out if the jurors are opposed to the death penalty and get rid of those who are.

As it turns out, jurors who are not opposed to the death penalty are more likely to convict in a trial, regardless of the evidence. This applies to all trials, not just death penalty trials.

That means it is much easier to get a conviction if the prosecutor says the death penalty is an option than if it is not an option.

That means that death penalty trials are inherently stacked against the defendent, which of course means the conviction of an innocent person is more likely.
JuanSmith On September 11, 2020
Shilsh-Aash yatasay





Near Eucalyptus Trees, Califor
#4New Post! Jul 30, 2009 @ 22:09:31
1984-1894 is 90
annski729 On July 24, 2016




, United States (general)
#5New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 01:39:46
Some info on the costs:

https://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty
https://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42
https://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/2289

As already mentioned, it's much more expensive to have the death penalty option on the table. Millions more.
Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#6New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 01:52:51
The death penalty should go the way of other medieval and barbaric practices that have no place in modern society. Apart from the obvious hypocrisy of killing to avenge killing, it has been proven to be racially biased and arbitrary. Holy Moses! Let us live in peace!
mr_ash On January 08, 2013




, United Kingdom
#7New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 01:54:13
I don't need to read links to the costs. I know it.

It's a huge waste of money. But equally as important, not a deterrent.

Personally I don't like the idea of a convicted murderer getting their own wish of death over life in prison.

I don't believe in burning in hell, because it doesn't exist. We have a child murderer in the UK (Huntley) who has attempted suicide a few times. I wouldn't give the satisfaction of his own wishes.
rocket48 On May 23, 2013




, Texas
#8New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:40:13
Why take so long to kill the mofo. Once convicted, clear cut evidence.........kill em and kill em now. Who the heck wants to pay for their meals for 22 years? Not me.
I am for the death penalty 100 percent. No life should be taken without giving your own.
mr_ash On January 08, 2013




, United Kingdom
#9New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:45:14
@rocket48 Said

Why take so long to kill the mofo. Once convicted, clear cut evidence.........kill em and kill em now. Who the heck wants to pay for their meals for 22 years? Not me.
I am for the death penalty 100 percent. No life should be taken without giving your own.


Can I ask Sir, had you acted stupidly and wrongfully killed someone, would you want death penalty and freedom of your guilt, or life in prison?
annski729 On July 24, 2016




, United States (general)
#10New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:45:39
@rocket48 Said

Why take so long to kill the mofo. Once convicted, clear cut evidence.........kill em and kill em now. Who the heck wants to pay for their meals for 22 years? Not me.
I am for the death penalty 100 percent.


So it already takes a long time right now how it is, and innocent people are still killed. Decreasing the amount of time means decreasing the amount of safeguards that are there to prevent executing someone innocent of the crime...which means more innocent people killed.

@rocket48 Said
No life should be taken without giving your own.


Except people who are wrongfully executed. Their lives are apparently OK to take because you get to kill off a few bad guys too.
magnifiSHIT On September 14, 2009

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Slaughter Avenue,
#11New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:45:56
I say put prisoners to work.
Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#12New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:46:14
What if you are innocent? It happens a lot. D.N.A.has proven innocence in murder cases repeatedly.
rocket48 On May 23, 2013




, Texas
#13New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 02:52:53
@Rasputin Said

What if you are innocent? It happens a lot. D.N.A.has proven innocence in murder cases repeatedly.



That's a fair argument to make 10 years ago, but not today. I am only saying once it is proved without a shadow of a doubt. Yes, it is equally a shame that someone has spent any time behind bars, much less those that were convicted and jailed for 20-30 years of their life.
I know what you saying when you ask what is worse for the killer, instant humane death or a torturous life behind bars.
I say who cares what they want. Why do I want to pay for a known killer to have a roof over his head and eat three- four meals a day, pay for all his or her medical expenses, dental care, and even give him one hour of play time?
Rasputin On March 13, 2020




London, Canada
#14New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 03:15:52
Hi again Rocket. I'm sorry you didn't accept my offer of friendship even though we disagree on most things. Frankly, preaching to the converted can be dull, so as I said I enjoy a good debate. Here in Canada we have recently had several murder convictions dating back years which have been overturned with dna evidence. The most famous being Steven Truscott who was sentenced to hang at age 14. He had his whole life taken from him for somtehing he didn't do. Had not the death penalty been overturned in Canada in the 60's he would be dead.I understand the emotional reaction to such horrible crimes. I just don't think they make for good justice.Do we not sink to the level of a murderer when he is executed?
WASH On June 04, 2012




LINCOLN, California
#15New Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 04:54:48
@Rasputin Said

The death penalty should go the way of other medieval and barbaric practices that have no place in modern society. Apart from the obvious hypocrisy of killing to avenge killing, it has been proven to be racially biased and arbitrary. Holy Moses! Let us live in peace!


I suggest you provide that proof.
I have done an unreasonable bit of research wrt the death penalty is raially biassed. None found.
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