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hallucinogenic_lipstick On June 27, 2020
Cocksocket.





Ely, Cambridgeshire, United Ki
#31New Post! Aug 13, 2009 @ 18:25:54
Edmonton North London is predominatly black and turkish area, most of the crime was gang realated and 90% of the time it was about crossing over into postal code areas and drugs so yes most crime was black youth related, the turkish side was normally drugs and fraud.

Since moving to Cambridgeshire it's mainly white middleclass drink drivers, drugs and the occassional chav crime.

I think its more about areas than race personally.

Edmonton is a deprived area so the crime rate is higher, Cambridgeshire is more affluent but a different kind of crime if that makes sense?
captain_planet On May 02, 2010




in someones ring, Puerto Rico
#32New Post! Aug 13, 2009 @ 18:41:14
People in a poor economic situation will commit more crimes.
Simple as that really.

The stress and lack of education that occurs when in such a poor economic situation leads to many problems from increased propensity for violent crime to increased chance of mental illness to increased risk of drug abuse etc. etc. etc.

There could be other more directly race related factors such as black people being punished more harshly for crimes if the judical system and law enforcement is unfair. The white boys might get a 'boys will be boys' response when they throw rocks through someones windows and a black kid might not etc.

Mostly I'd imagine it's an historical issue based on the fact that black people traditionally come from lower income families in lower income areas. Something that hopefully is improving with each generation.
It's why I would support those programs to get black kids into college that certian people seem willing to call 'racism' on.
sarky On March 11, 2011




london, United Kingdom
#33New Post! Sep 13, 2009 @ 18:41:38
@captain_planet Said

People in a poor economic situation will commit more crimes.
Simple as that really.

The stress and lack of education that occurs when in such a poor economic situation leads to many problems from increased propensity for violent crime to increased chance of mental illness to increased risk of drug abuse etc. etc. etc.

There could be other more directly race related factors such as black people being punished more harshly for crimes if the judical system and law enforcement is unfair. The white boys might get a 'boys will be boys' response when they throw rocks through someones windows and a black kid might not etc.

Mostly I'd imagine it's an historical issue based on the fact that black people traditionally come from lower income families in lower income areas. Something that hopefully is improving with each generation.
It's why I would support those programs to get black kids into college that certian people seem willing to call 'racism' on.
Agree, also a suspect or crime involving a black person in the newspapers, are described as "the suspect is black", whereas nothing is metioned when the suspect is white.
markfox01 On October 29, 2018
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Welshman in Brum.., United Kin
#34New Post! Sep 15, 2009 @ 07:15:03
@jmo Said

It's quite simple, the darker ones skin the more likely they are to commit a crime.

Absolutely nothing to do with the higher proportion of black people living in poverty or situations where crime does happen to be higher. Nope, it is simply the colour of their skin which is making them commit crime.



you really feel that mate??
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
Bringer of rad mirth


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Here and there,
#35New Post! Sep 16, 2009 @ 13:34:13
@Marcussextus Said

I live in tropical Australia, and here the Indigenous make up over 80% of the prison population. They cry foul, blame white Australia, claim prejudice, all the usual excuses, but to my mind, they committed the crime, by choice, no-one held a gun to their head, so STOP the whinging, take responsibility for yourselves!
I get sick of hearing all the complaints, we all have a choice.
There are more than enough successful, NON-CRIMINAL coloured people, they didn't sink into crime, so why do we accept excuses for those who do?
Stuff this "victim industry" rubbish where the sun don't shine!


So going back to my original post, what are the reasons for this?
KAMPA On October 28, 2013
Admiral Karl Donuts





Uhlan Bator, Mongolia
#36New Post! Sep 16, 2009 @ 13:59:49
@SparklyKatie Said

I think it comes down to status too, I'm not trying to stereotype here but 'most' black people or areas are run down and borderline poverty and 'most' white people are relatively well off, I think a better comparison would be to find out what percentage of whites and blacks turn to crime in low income or poverished areas, I bet it's pretty similar

That is the key! Poverty statistics should always be matched along side crime rates! Some would say it is only coincidence,they are so close. But I think it is the key indicator!
KAMPA On October 28, 2013
Admiral Karl Donuts





Uhlan Bator, Mongolia
#37New Post! Sep 16, 2009 @ 14:02:17
@sarky Said

These are Britains most EVIL serial killers who will NEVER be released from jail;
Ian Brady
Dennis Nilsen
Rose West
Donald Neilson
Steve Wright
David Bieber
Ian Huntley
Douglas Vinter
Jeremy Bamber
Robert Maudsley
John Childs
Levi Bellfield
John Duffy
Trevor Hardy
Glyn Dix Harold Shipman
Peter Sutcliff
I just wondered how many of these are black?

Serial killers are motivated by their own twisted desires,not socio-economic factors!
boobagins On August 03, 2013
SPICY HOT TAMALES





Astral Weeks, Florida
#38New Post! Sep 16, 2009 @ 14:12:02
https://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

It is true...statistics show that there are more crimes committed by black than whites.

However...there are some misconceptions with these statistics. For example the type of crimes committed. White collar crime, things that happen in the business word are more often committed by white people than black people. Black people are often involved in petty theft, robbery, etc. As far as crimes such as murder etc...those are a bit skewed but there are just as many white, as their are blacks committing those crimes.

I took a criminology class and there are whole sections devoted to physical appearance, biological factors, race, environment, in relation to criminal behavior. So to answer your question on why...there are many answers.

There are several theories and criminal classifications which hone a person based on the crime committed and/or the factors that contributed to the criminal behavior.

Environment plays a big role....there are statistics that show that those that come from a poor class, broken type neighborhood often have a higher crime rate.

Others theories are role models..such their peers and their parents. People are most likely to follow their footsteps.

Other theories are purely biological...some criminologist believe it has to do with genes and those possessing certain physical attributes are a sign that they are more likely to commit crimes. Some physical attributes associated with higher criminal behavior are protruding jaw line/lips, big nose, big ears that stick out, a wide forehead etc. And those with black skin are known to have a big nose, big ears etc.

Other theories...are things like those that have tattoos, piercings are more likely to commit crimes, because in early days it showed how the act of getting a tattoo shows that they are often insensitive to pain...another sign of criminal behavior.

However, I believe the overall contributing factor is the environment, the type of environment you are in...and it holds true for all races. For if you put a white kid in a black neighborhood that has a high crime rate and raise him, he will just as likely have criminal tendencies as another other kid on the street.

I could go on and on...but there is no one true answer...many theories involved and often these theories interlace with each other.
boobagins On August 03, 2013
SPICY HOT TAMALES





Astral Weeks, Florida
#39New Post! Sep 16, 2009 @ 14:12:42
CORN1SH On January 05, 2010

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, United Kingdom
#40New Post! Sep 16, 2009 @ 18:56:07
@Marcussextus Said

I live in tropical Australia, and here the Indigenous make up over 80% of the prison population. They cry foul, blame white Australia, claim prejudice, all the usual excuses, but to my mind, they committed the crime, by choice, no-one held a gun to their head, so STOP the whinging, take responsibility for yourselves!
I get sick of hearing all the complaints, we all have a choice.
There are more than enough successful, NON-CRIMINAL coloured people, they didn't sink into crime, so why do we accept excuses for those who do?
Stuff this "victim industry" rubbish where the sun don't shine!



That puts the old myth to bed about crime running in the family then...
sarky On March 11, 2011




london, United Kingdom
#41New Post! Apr 17, 2010 @ 08:31:13
@boobagins Said

https://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

It is true...statistics show that there are more crimes committed by black than whites.

However...there are some misconceptions with these statistics. For example the type of crimes committed. White collar crime, things that happen in the business word are more often committed by white people than black people. Black people are often involved in petty theft, robbery, etc. As far as crimes such as murder etc...those are a bit skewed but there are just as many white, as their are blacks committing those crimes.

I took a criminology class and there are whole sections devoted to physical appearance, biological factors, race, environment, in relation to criminal behavior. So to answer your question on why...there are many answers.

There are several theories and criminal classifications which hone a person based on the crime committed and/or the factors that contributed to the criminal behavior.

Environment plays a big role....there are statistics that show that those that come from a poor class, broken type neighborhood often have a higher crime rate.

Others theories are role models..such their peers and their parents. People are most likely to follow their footsteps.

Other theories are purely biological...some criminologist believe it has to do with genes and those possessing certain physical attributes are a sign that they are more likely to commit crimes. Some physical attributes associated with higher criminal behavior are protruding jaw line/lips, big nose, big ears that stick out, a wide forehead etc. And those with black skin are known to have a big nose, big ears etc.

Other theories...are things like those that have tattoos, piercings are more likely to commit crimes, because in early days it showed how the act of getting a tattoo shows that they are often insensitive to pain...another sign of criminal behavior.

However, I believe the overall contributing factor is the environment, the type of environment you are in...and it holds true for all races. For if you put a white kid in a black neighborhood that has a high crime rate and raise him, he will just as likely have criminal tendencies as another other kid on the street.

I could go on and on...but there is no one true answer...many theories involved and often these theories interlace with each other.
Well said.
What many also dont realise is that if an area is largely populated by a particular race, the crime stastistics by that particular race will obviously be higher.
bob_the_fisherman On about 17 hours ago
Anatidaephobic





, Angola
#42New Post! Apr 17, 2010 @ 08:57:47
I would think one of, if not the, most significant factor in crime, is class, not race.
sarky On March 11, 2011




london, United Kingdom
#43New Post! Apr 17, 2010 @ 09:08:27
@bob_the_fisherman Said

I would think one of, if not the, most significant factor in crime, is class, not race.

Are there not anyone of the upperclass in prison in Australia?
Strange that!
Or could it be that the so called Upperclasses use their status, money and power as an excuse to get away with the punishments dished out to the poorer people?
NadeNibbler On May 01, 2010




, Texas
#44New Post! Apr 23, 2010 @ 03:43:05
Percentage wise, more blacks are in jails and prisons than whites. Why? Who knows all the reasons. Here's one reason I believe contributes. I personally don't think alot of todays music artists are being very good figures to look up to. They have a gangsta mantality and everyone knows they came from the streets, gang bangin' and it sends the wrong message. Now all you see is a bunch of wannabes walkin' around with thier pants around the bottom of thier asses talkin' out loud like they're some cool rapper. Dreamin' they're gonna be a gangbangin' rapper star some day. They all think stealing and being a thug is hip. I hate them all, especially the music industry for promoting all the trash out there. Where's my flame thrower! Kidding.... I do think this is one reason though and I'm not alone on the thought.
bob_the_fisherman On about 17 hours ago
Anatidaephobic





, Angola
#45New Post! Apr 23, 2010 @ 05:01:44
@NadeNibbler Said

Percentage wise, more blacks are in jails and prisons than whites. Why? Who knows all the reasons. Here's one reason I believe contributes. I personally don't think alot of todays music artists are being very good figures to look up to. They have a gangsta mantality and everyone knows they came from the streets, gang bangin' and it sends the wrong message. Now all you see is a bunch of wannabes walkin' around with thier pants around the bottom of thier asses talkin' out loud like they're some cool rapper. Dreamin' they're gonna be a gangbangin' rapper star some day. They all think stealing and being a thug is hip. I hate them all, especially the music industry for promoting all the trash out there. Where's my flame thrower! Kidding.... I do think this is one reason though and I'm not alone on the thought.


It's obviously an age thing, but the term 'gang banging" does not conjure up in my mind images of thugs brawling on the street...

As to your broader point - I suspect that there is a lot of truth in that. Here in Aus, we have a lot of white youngens that are 'wannabe blacks ganstas' and when I see them, I have several different reactions simulataneously. I wanna laugh, beat the piss out of them, and drop them in some American inner city area full of gang violence.

I despise with intensity the glorification of violent morons - here in Aus we have had to put up with a s*** series on our local crims called "underbelly". The only people dumber than the morons that these shows are about, is the cockheads that make or watch these shows...
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