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4d4m On September 20, 2020




4dforum.org,
#1066New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 06:04:00
@mrmhead Said

So, as I always equate it - to extreme simplification:

Communism: State owns everything
Socialism: Everyone owns everything

... right?

And in a well-trained society, each is perfect.


... and how did this come up in a cronavirus thread?


Communism the state owns everything = like a monarchy
Socialism the state owns only the major corporations (producers)- like an oligarchy

In a perfect society everything would work out perfect
In a perfect society with a perfect King everything would work out perfectly

history says this is incorrect,

History also shows us the same of Communism and Socialism

SO, the answer is a society where political, religious, and economic power is spread out among too many different entities for one small group of tyrants to take over, and then arm everyone just in case
gakINGKONG 14 minutes ago




, Florida
#1067New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 11:54:57
Watching the sunrise outside the gates of Levenworth. Happy Coro-Friday everyone.

Mask if you have to, which probably isn't that often.
gakINGKONG 14 minutes ago




, Florida
#1068New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 12:18:47
@4d4m Said

Communism the state owns everything = like a monarchy
Socialism the state owns only the major corporations (producers)- like an oligarchy

In a perfect society everything would work out perfect
In a perfect society with a perfect King everything would work out perfectly

history says this is incorrect,

History also shows us the same of Communism and Socialism

SO, the answer is a society where political, religious, and economic power is spread out among too many different entities for one small group of tyrants to take over, and then arm everyone just in case



. . . everyone who is unfaithful or dirty-minded or who murders or is sexually immoral or uses witchcraft or worships idols or tells lies: They will be thrown into the lake of fire and burning sulfur. . . .

Then, society will be perfect.
4d4m On September 20, 2020




4dforum.org,
#1069New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 17:01:42
@gakINGKONG Said

. . . everyone who is unfaithful or dirty-minded or who murders or is sexually immoral or uses witchcraft or worships idols or tells lies: They will be thrown into the lake of fire and burning sulfur. . . .

Then, society will be perfect.



And what if the dirty minded murderer sorcerers who tell lies are the priests?
darkman666 1 minutes ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#1070New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 17:19:06
i'll bet off camera, Glinda the Good Witch of the North was a snob.
mrmhead On about 1 hour ago




NE, Ohio
#1071New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 20:19:26
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer announced at a news conference on Friday that they had offered to "go down a trillion" from their top-line number of $3.4 trillion, if Republicans would go up $1 trillion from their initial offer of $1 trillion.

But Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told reporters shortly afterward that the request for GOP negotiators to increase their offer by $1 trillion, putting the top-line number at around $2 trillion, is "a non-starter."



Damn obstructionist Democrats!!

I bet they want oversight of where that money goes too
mrmhead On about 1 hour ago




NE, Ohio
#1072New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 20:26:38
@mrmhead Said

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer announced at a news conference on Friday that they had offered to "go down a trillion" from their top-line number of $3.4 trillion, if Republicans would go up $1 trillion from their initial offer of $1 trillion.

But Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told reporters shortly afterward that the request for GOP negotiators to increase their offer by $1 trillion, putting the top-line number at around $2 trillion, is "a non-starter."



Damn obstructionist Democrats!!

I bet they want oversight of where that money goes too


A Good mob boss would play it differently:

GOP: $1T
Dem: $3T
GOP: Nope ... $0.9T ... wanna try again?
Dem: WTF?!?!
GOP: $0.75T ... anything else to say?
Dem: nooo
GOP: Good, now Kiss the Ring.
JuanSmith On September 11, 2020
Shilsh-Aash yatasay





Near Eucalyptus Trees, Califor
#1073New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 22:39:24
@4d4m Said

Socialist = Oligarchist / Socialism and Communism were created as a ruse to pacify enlightenment thinking in the masses after the US Revolutionary War. At the time Europeans were clamoring to rid themselves of Monarchies. The monarchies fought back by sabotaging the French Revolution, which everyone knows ended up with a Dictator (Napolean) anyway.

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The Neo-con faction of the US Republican party was originally a faction of the Democratic party. It was founded by Irving Kristol, a socialist.

check out this Blog post



ok.. so again, who are the Socialist Republicans?
JuanSmith On September 11, 2020
Shilsh-Aash yatasay





Near Eucalyptus Trees, Califor
#1074New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 22:54:08
So with this Coronavirus, my company has now decided to have everyone telework until December.


Anyone else staying home for the remainder of the year or do we have essential workers that need to show up to their place of work still?
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#1075New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 23:19:10
@4d4m Said


In a perfect society everything would work out perfect
In a perfect society with a perfect King everything would work out perfectly

history says this is incorrect,



No.

History doesn't not say that those two statements are wrong, as those two statements are nothing more than hypothetical IF's.

History on the other hand does show us that to date there have never been any "perfect" societies, nor any "perfect" Kings. Looking at history we certainly can surmise that the likely hood of a "perfect" society and/or a "perfect" king is bigly unlikely (though Christians would argue that eventually we will have both).

History shows that there have been some very "good" Kings/Emperors/rulers who have done many good things, but history shows that these are short lived and never "perfect". The same is true of societies.

Of course none of that has anything to do with the Coronavirus, except to perhaps argue that Donald Jesus Christ Trump has done a "perfect" job in responding to the Trump Flu.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#1076New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 23:20:22
@JuanSmith Said

Anyone else staying home for the remainder of the year or do we have essential workers that need to show up to their place of work still?



Me. Travel is presently out of the question... especially to the parts of the world I would be traveling to.... I guess I am taking a "sabbatical".
DiscordTiger On about 3 hours ago
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#1077New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 23:44:01
@JuanSmith Said

So with this Coronavirus, my company has now decided to have everyone telework until December.


Anyone else staying home for the remainder of the year or do we have essential workers that need to show up to their place of work still?



Well, my place just basically told us they have no plans to actually protect students and staff other than thoughts and prayers, so unless you can file an Ada claim, back to work whether the school is ready or not.

So apparently we’re essential, but have not been given any additional support or PPE than make your own mask and stay 6 feet apart.
darkman666 1 minutes ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#1078New Post! Aug 07, 2020 @ 23:50:23
@chaski Said

Me. Travel is presently out of the question... especially to the parts of the world I would be traveling to.... I guess I am taking a "sabbatical".


another day, you go back places you have been before wearing the same blue dress- should give them break now. you don't want kill the men - remember those legs of yours. in the mean time, climb up to tree's branches and stalk those termites on the tree's barks. should always, give the squirrels thrill to see those legs of yours.
JuanSmith On September 11, 2020
Shilsh-Aash yatasay





Near Eucalyptus Trees, Califor
#1079New Post! Aug 08, 2020 @ 00:38:27
@chaski Said

Me. Travel is presently out of the question... especially to the parts of the world I would be traveling to.... I guess I am taking a "sabbatical".


sorry to hear that. that sucks
@DiscordTiger Said

Well, my place just basically told us they have no plans to actually protect students and staff other than thoughts and prayers, so unless you can file an Ada claim, back to work whether the school is ready or not.

So apparently we’re essential, but have not been given any additional support or PPE than make your own mask and stay 6 feet apart.



wow..

good ol thoughts and prayers.. why didn't anyone think of that before?
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#1080New Post! Aug 08, 2020 @ 02:40:28
@JuanSmith Said

sorry to hear that. that sucks




Thanks.

Its cool though.

My problems are small compared to most others.

I feel more at home when I am traveling than when I am at "home", but now I am learning more and more to embrace what I have here.

My complaints are small... insignificant compared to others.

I suppose the "worst" part is that I used to do a fair bit of volunteer work, and that is now thwarted.

How can you help when you cannot help?
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