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gazzagogz On July 14, 2014




Cumbria, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 10:42:32
I hate it when people refer to music as classical music.
I need to point out that classical is not a style of music. Classical is a period of music from around 1730 (or arguably 1750) to 1820.
Classical is not a style. It is an era of music.
Darkshine On May 05, 2010




Sydney, Australia
#2New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 10:44:58
Don't just whine, offer an alternative for those bestowed with less knowledge
than yourself.
x_Laura_x On August 07, 2019
Majestic Unicorn





Nowhere, United Kingdom
#3New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 10:52:59
@gazzagogz Said
I hate it when people refer to music as classical music.
I need to point out that classical is not a style of music. Classical is a period of music from around 1730 (or arguably 1750) to 1820.
Classical is not a style. It is an era of music.


So, what would you call the style of music that is most commonly referred to as "classical music"?
jmo On February 19, 2017
Beruset af Julebryg





Yorkshire, United Kingdom
#4New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 10:56:33
People do that, words are our slaves not our masters. People describe all sorts of rubbish as punk, originally that was just the name of the magazine that covored that sort of music.

*puts on Karl Orf*
x_Laura_x On August 07, 2019
Majestic Unicorn





Nowhere, United Kingdom
#5New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 10:58:43
@jmo Said
People do that, words are our slaves not our masters. People describe all sorts of rubbish as punk, originally that was just the name of the magazine that covored that sort of music.

*puts on Karl Orf*


Yeah I bought a copy of Kerrang which featured Fall Out Boy, Panic At The Disco and I think it was The Academy Is..., the words on the front of the magazine said "the shape of punk to come".

I nearly cried
gazzagogz On July 14, 2014




Cumbria, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:05:50
@darkshine Said
Don't just whine, offer an alternative for those bestowed with less knowledge
than yourself.


ok well rathen than saying that it is a classical style, people need to get to grips with what styles there are, such as imperessionism, romanticism, neo-classicism, expressionism, serialism, jazz, blues, etc.

Before people listen to a piece of music which is played by an orchestra they need to know what style is it if theyre going to say something about its style. Not just saying it's classical because thats an era.
gazzagogz On July 14, 2014




Cumbria, United Kingdom
#7New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:12:41
@x_laura_x Said
So, what would you call the style of music that is most commonly referred to as "classical music"?


well, various styles were used within the classical period. composers found themselves adding more colour and life to music as opposed to what composers of the baroque period were doing. so styles such as impressionism an expressionism were added. the classical period only came after the baroque period and in relation kept a lot of styles and forms the baroque period already had. However, the classical period composers just added a wider range of contrasts within music.
treebee On April 13, 2015
Government Hooker

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London, United Kingdom
#8New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:12:47
does it matter? Its like art, why must we pigeonhole everything in life?
x_Laura_x On August 07, 2019
Majestic Unicorn





Nowhere, United Kingdom
#9New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:14:16
@gazzagogz Said
well, various styles were used within the classical period. composers found themselves adding more colour and life to music as opposed to what composers of the baroque period were doing. so styles such as impressionism an expressionism were added. the classical period only came after the baroque period and in relation kept a lot of styles and forms the baroque period already had. However, the classical period composers just added a wider range of contrasts within music.


To me it seems easier to just call it "classical music"
The majority of people call it that so why change it or argue about it?
leftie_scum On August 29, 2008




Fremantle, Australia
#10New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:21:46
I agree with Laura, soooooo much easier to just say classical music - which I looooooooooove by the way
gazzagogz On July 14, 2014




Cumbria, United Kingdom
#11New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 12:50:52
@x_laura_x Said
To me it seems easier to just call it "classical music"
The majority of people call it that so why change it or argue about it?


I agree, it is a lot easier to call it that. I'm not really trying to change people or get anyone to call classical music a different name. It's just one of those little things that really annoy me so i thought I'd have a little rant about it and let other people share their opinions.
kentoo On October 26, 2010




Salmon Arm, Canada
#12New Post! Jul 24, 2008 @ 15:00:54
@gazzagogz Said
I hate it when people refer to music as classical music.
I need to point out that classical is not a style of music. Classical is a period of music from around 1730 (or arguably 1750) to 1820.
Classical is not a style. It is an era of music.


wikipedia says differently although not far off what you have said. I find that "classical" is an easy distinction that goes well with other common terms such as jazz, contemporary, alternative and popular
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music
sister_of_mercy On March 11, 2015




London, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Jul 25, 2008 @ 23:57:40
@gazzagogz Said
well, various styles were used within the classical period. composers found themselves adding more colour and life to music as opposed to what composers of the baroque period were doing. so styles such as impressionism an expressionism were added. the classical period only came after the baroque period and in relation kept a lot of styles and forms the baroque period already had. However, the classical period composers just added a wider range of contrasts within music.


Well, technically if you're going to be pedantic, it was only in the Late Classical era (approx. 1750-1800) when composers actually diversified the orchestras and the mood of the piece. In the early Classical era there was hardly any 'colour' as Classical orchestras mainly consisted of strings who played normal homophonic melodies, usually within the same dynamics. The little Woodwind or brass that did play in the accompaniment only played natural notes, again not much to add any colour or life. It was only when woodwind and brass had taken a more active role in the orchestra by soloing, that composers thought to add some drama into the piece, by using more extremes in dynamics and, eventually pitch.

But to be honest, who really cares? If people like to call pieces of music that are instrumental,etc Classical then that's their interpretation, why bother labelling music anyway?
gazzagogz On July 14, 2014




Cumbria, United Kingdom
#14New Post! Jul 26, 2008 @ 11:51:07
@sister_of_mercy Said
Well, technically if you're going to be pedantic, it was only in the Late Classical era (approx. 1750-1800) when composers actually diversified the orchestras and the mood of the piece. In the early Classical era there was hardly any 'colour' as Classical orchestras mainly consisted of strings who played normal homophonic melodies, usually within the same dynamics. The little Woodwind or brass that did play in the accompaniment only played natural notes, again not much to add any colour or life. It was only when woodwind and brass had taken a more active role in the orchestra by soloing, that composers thought to add some drama into the piece, by using more extremes in dynamics and, eventually pitch.

But to be honest, who really cares? If people like to call pieces of music that are instrumental,etc Classical then that's their interpretation, why bother labelling music anyway?


Fair point actually, but suppose other peoples arguments (such as Wikipedia) are right that the classical era only began in 1750; composers then started to diversify orchestras and the mood of the piece early on.
just something to ponder upon.
I know that no one will change the way they call pieces of music but whatever.
Don't you think its really annoying though when you get those people that think they know absolutely everything about music, and you'll let them listen to a piece of medieval music or even a modern neo-classicism piece of music and they will tlk absolute bollox about how and why it is a 'classical piece of music' and how they can tell.
And at the end of the day you can show them that it was composed in 1980 or something and to them it will still be classical music because it was played by an orchestra???
ahh well.
what can ya do.
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