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WASH On June 04, 2012




LINCOLN, California
#1New Post! Dec 23, 2008 @ 02:46:26
Nothing new and it will spral ovwer time note below

The S. F. Chronicle Wash Kostinko
901 Mission Street
San Francisco CA Santa Cruz Ca 95060
ED012 960110
COR[ORAL PUNISHMENT
"CORPORAL STUPIDITY" titled the Chronicle editorial of 960110!
Strong words and difficult to accept without debate. AB7, before the
Cal. Assembly "would give the judge the power to order parents to
paddle their children"
It stated "--the evidence is that violence begets violence and
that humiliation is hardly an effective way to change behavior."
True! But only if humiliation is the intent of the punishment! And if
cause and effect are not considered.
Assemblyman approves a bill which calls for paddling graffiti
vandals? Assemblywoman asks! Why not call it a public humiliation
bill? What do you know! They are both right because the first
permits the second to become evident.
Paddling is supposed to be humiliating and for a very good
reason. The paddling is to assure that vandalism remain taboo and to
assure that the public is no longer humiliated by the acts of the
vandals!.
Assemblyman Goldsmith, Poway, feels that paddling,
administered by the parent, will have an impact on the child. On the
contrary, countered assemblywoman Mrtinez, Monterey Park. It could
?hurt his self esteem!
It is supported by "--a handful of school board members and a
conservative lobbying group.
Those who oppose it are a "-- LONG list of school districts,
the California PTA, and the American Academy of Pediatrics." The
last, I am sure, is to have the public believe that the intent of
paddling is to inflict physical harm to the recipient. No! No! It is
to assure that he is "HUMILIATED"!
Back in 1986 our then assemblyman, Sam Farr, railroaded a bill
through the Legislature to outlaw corporal punishment in our schools
---- agreeing with Assemblyman Vasconcello that paddling would be
harmful to the self esteem of the recipient.
Have we profited by it? It seem, at least to me, that the
ability of our juvenile courts and the school systems to control the
activities of the non-conforming youth of the present has been
greatly weakened by their inability, by law, to maintain discipline
off campus and in the classroom.
A correlation has been established between restricting the
activities of our youth within reasonable community standards and
permitting them the liberty to do their own thing --> knowing that
law protects their indiscretions.
What if the attempt to reason or persuade the child has
failed? What if denying the child his favorite program or tasty dish
falls on deaf ears? What if other non-corporal punishment is also
fruitless? What then? Do we confine him to a jail to initiate mental
punishment when a bit of physical therapy could have cured his
illness?

I will permit the reader to perform his own evaluation of the
past with that of the present.
Is it possible that our leaders may have mandated that our
youth be given free reign to their wants? To hell with what they
need?
He who practices humility is rarely subject to humiliation!
WASH
rider On September 28, 2009

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The first one, Australia
#2New Post! Dec 23, 2008 @ 02:59:56
I got the Cane at school when I did something really wrong,I copped it from my parents when I did something really wrong,as my kids did as well.
Today's world forbids you hitting your kids,and look where we are,most of the kids are openly rude to their Parents and everyone else ,and do just what they please,I was bought up to say Please and Thank you,today if you expect a kid to say that and ask for it,you get told to Get f***ed,so does that mean they said Please or Thank You,I'm a little Misty on that one.

Maybe for the do-gooders should stop putting people in Jail as well,image what that does to a Rapist or Murders Self esteem,could have devistating affects on them???
mark_is_god On June 26, 2015




antrim, Ireland
#3New Post! Dec 23, 2008 @ 03:09:52
"today if you expect a kid to say that and ask for it,you get told to Get f***ed,"

i guess your parents never taught you, that's it rude too insult and generalize a whole generation of people.
rider On September 28, 2009

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The first one, Australia
#4New Post! Dec 23, 2008 @ 03:15:48
@mark_is_god Said

"today if you expect a kid to say that and ask for it,you get told to Get f***ed,"

i guess your parents never taught you, that's it rude too insult and generalize a whole generation of people.



Ummmm,would that be just like your doing Now?????
mark_is_god On June 26, 2015




antrim, Ireland
#5New Post! Dec 23, 2008 @ 04:21:24
no, read my comment again.
i didn't insult a whole generation by painting them with the same brush.

if i accused you off telling people to f*** off, for no reason, you would (and i feel save in assuming this) dislike it.
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