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jeoin On November 12, 2004




#1New Post! May 05, 2004 @ 17:48:16
How do you guys feel about Cuba? Do you think it is fair to isolate them like we do?

Personally I don't feel it is right. I think it is being done merely to force them to change to democracy.
panetti On February 17, 2005




Little Rock, Arkansas
#2New Post! May 05, 2004 @ 21:14:32
Can you elaborate on this? This is an issue I haven't kept up with, so I'm not yet in a position to have an opinion either way.
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#3New Post! May 11, 2004 @ 16:36:51
below is a link for information about this, as wel as a quote. Bush is such a nice guy.

Quote:
Bush said Cuban-Americans now can visit relatives on the island once every three years rather than once a year. They can spend $50 a day rather than the earlier limit of $164.


Visits and money transfers are limited to immediate family members ? excluding uncles and cousins ? and officials and Communist Party members cannot receive funds. More money would be allotted for dissidents.

https://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20040511/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cuba_us
firewhore On May 15, 2004




#4New Post! May 13, 2004 @ 19:12:58
f*** cuba
panetti On February 17, 2005




Little Rock, Arkansas
#5New Post! May 13, 2004 @ 19:17:43
Now how are we supposed to debate that? Um, that one's yours Jeoin!
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#6New Post! May 13, 2004 @ 20:42:11
I like firewhore, he/she is actually telling us some real good stuff.
You go.
panetti On February 17, 2005




Little Rock, Arkansas
#7New Post! May 13, 2004 @ 21:29:45
So when he says "f--- Cuba" he's ok, but when he says Moore's a fat slob, he's not. What?!

Both statements were unprofessional (great, I'm defending Moore, the ironies don't cease!) and offered nothing to the debate.
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#8New Post! May 13, 2004 @ 21:54:16
pan your my only conservative friend, so you know i said that only with great sarcasm.

Anyways I kinda got the hint firewhore wants to F%$# moore, so its the same thing.

firewhore On May 15, 2004




#9New Post! May 13, 2004 @ 23:25:37
ha-ha... i sure do

who cares if "f*** cuba" is unprofessional? i really could care less. i am not trying to be "professional"
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#10New Post! May 14, 2004 @ 00:15:30
I don't care if your professional, I am not professional most of the time. I just want to know why you feel the way you feel, not f*** the world. I think that is just an attack. Share why you want to give it to cuba.
Please, seriously..
firewhore On May 15, 2004




#11New Post! May 14, 2004 @ 03:49:19
what do you mean by "give it to cuba"?

why should we support a communist country? we never supported communism in the first place, so why start now?
panetti On February 17, 2005




Little Rock, Arkansas
#12New Post! May 14, 2004 @ 03:58:52
Hmm...

Well, I don't know much about this issue yet, so I won't say much. But, it's their choice to be commie as much as we might disagree with it. I mean, if it works for them, more power to 'em.
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#13New Post! May 14, 2004 @ 04:04:25
when a person says f*** cuba, that kinda has negative connotations.
like you want to give IT to them...
its a joke...

We don't have to support them, but we sure don't have to repress them either. Democracy just happens to be our form of government. It is this way because we made it this way. The same thing happened in russia, and india. Its does not convey a postive image to use the tools of oppresion to force a government to conform to your beliefs. They have the right to be how they are. If they want to change they will have to do it themselves. We are not the boss of the world. We aren't doing this type of thing to china, or the other communist nations. Only those that we feel we can change by hurting them. Its inhumane, and sets a negative example to the world of our intentions. If i was china the actions of the US would concern me highly. Also why are we not trying to change saudi arabia? We only play favors to those that are true threats, the other smaller countries we just hold under finacial water. Its sad and shameful to me. Not how an enlighten nation should act. Please don't say we are doing this because of the bay of pigs, or Cubas threats against kennedy. We made athreat against him first, and were able to stop the soviets mid stream.
Castro has done great things. Do some research and you will see his educational system is suberb. His people are feed. Sure some of them flee to our country, but so do mexicans. We could better server the world by distributing the wealth instead of withholding it. Like some kinda lure. I don't blame him for being defiant.
panetti On February 17, 2005




Little Rock, Arkansas
#14New Post! May 14, 2004 @ 04:11:49
Quote:
we sure don't have to repress them either. Democracy just happens to be our form of government. It is this way because we made it this way. The same thing happened in russia, and india. Its does not convey a postive image to use the tools of oppresion to force a government to conform to your beliefs. They have the right to be how they are.


I don't know about the rest, but I agree with this. I don't like communism, but I think if another country can pull it off and its people are happy that way, then that's fine (though that's hardly ever the case, so history teaches). As long as a country is not oppressive, it should govern however it chooses to. Just so they let us do the same (cough cough -- UN!!!).

Unless they're not causing us a problem or oppressing their people, we should leave 'em be.

Well stated point.
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#15New Post! May 14, 2004 @ 04:19:58
thank you.
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