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mattyc On March 22, 2013




Toronto, Canada
#1New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 03:59:49
https://www.forumshawaii.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=559089

Is there? Read some of the "arguments" on this thread. My faith in humanity has dropped a little.
breadwinner On April 16, 2010

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#2New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:09:43
@mattyc Said

My faith in humanity has dropped a little.


Only a little?
chief_big On June 12, 2013




haggisville, United Kingdom
#3New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:10:51
evil pokemon hahaha........... ethnic cleansing still goes on in some parts of the the world and some countries still lack basic human rights for their citizens , hunger etc. etc. but we must save the bunnies and restore mattys faith in people
mattyc On March 22, 2013




Toronto, Canada
#4New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:15:11
@chief_big Said

evil pokemon hahaha........... ethnic cleansing still goes on in some parts of the the world and some countries still lack basic human rights for their citizens , hunger etc. etc. but we must save the bunnies and restore mattys faith in people


That there are bigger problems in the world doesn't answer the question whether it is justifiable or not to burn an animal alive.

This thread is not about ethnic cleansing, or lack of human rights. Those are subjects for other threads.
breadwinner On April 16, 2010

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#5New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:16:03
I think the whole treatment of animals and the environment is really bad, and I hope people get whats coming to them.
fuzzy_hand_cuffs On December 30, 2009
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Clarksville, Tennessee
#6New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:23:34
Here is a solution to the idiots that burn animals alive....


Burn the mother f***ers with their own M.O
fuzzy_hand_cuffs On December 30, 2009
I WORK OUT





Clarksville, Tennessee
#7New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:25:13
Oh wait...It was just mice? lol
mattyc On March 22, 2013




Toronto, Canada
#8New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:26:27
@fuzzy_hand_cuffs Said

Oh wait...It was just mice? lol


Does it make any difference?
fuzzy_hand_cuffs On December 30, 2009
I WORK OUT





Clarksville, Tennessee
#9New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:30:32
@mattyc Said

Does it make any difference?



haha, well....*sighs* Its still an animal, So I guess its still a bad no no... But I just figured it was going to be like a dog or cat or HORSE for the matter of it. LOL. But I love all *cough* animals...Well some.
mattyc On March 22, 2013




Toronto, Canada
#10New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:37:09
@fuzzy_hand_cuffs Said

haha, well....*sighs* Its still an animal, So I guess its still a bad no no... But I just figured it was going to be like a dog or cat or HORSE for the matter of it. LOL. But I love all *cough* animals...Well some.


Exactly, it doesn't really matter. Because the action and intention of cruelty is still there, species matters not. It's not like the act suddenly vanishes when the animal seems to be "less cute" or even hated.
chief_big On June 12, 2013




haggisville, United Kingdom
#11New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:41:38
@mattyc Said

That there are bigger problems in the world doesn't answer the question whether it is justifiable or not to burn an animal alive.

This thread is not about ethnic cleansing, or lack of human rights. Those are subjects for other threads.


yeah but my point was people still burn each other alive would you really expect them to treat different species with greater respect than they do each other.......obviously or you faith in the kindness of your fellow man wouldnt be shaken.

Also you strike me as the type of person who values all life and if so you wouldnt agree with the assisted suicide caper ive heard about am i right?

If so then killing the animal is a form of assisted suicide assuming of course burning it is necessary life in all its glory is represented through pain , happiness etc.etc. who are you to deny the rabbit [for example] the sensation of burning alive its the last feeling this animal will ever feel before it disappears and ceases to exist intirely.Granted its not going to be pleasant but its the circle of life like when a lion eats a zebra he doesnt give it death by leathal injection it chews on it.
Stigma On February 13, 2010
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#12New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 04:49:28
I didn't even bother clicking the link cause I know it will ruin my night which has been dumb people free, so far.




Sweet_Merry On June 25, 2021
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Building my Castles in the Sky
#13New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 06:52:10
I didn't click it either. I know we as people can be twisted and cruel.

I don't burn animals alive- I don't think I could.
mattyc On March 22, 2013




Toronto, Canada
#14New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 06:57:29
@chief_big Said

yeah but my point was people still burn each other alive would you really expect them to treat different species with greater respect than they do each other.......


No. But that's a moot point because burning an animal alive requires the same intent.

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obviously or you faith in the kindness of your fellow man wouldnt be shaken.


So my faith in humanity dropped from 50 to 49. It's not like I'm starting high here. It's a scaling system, ever constantly changing.

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Also you strike me as the type of person who values all life and if so you wouldnt agree with the assisted suicide caper ive heard about am i right?


Assisted suicide? If it's for things like terminal patients who are suffering and have no hope of survival, then I agree with it. Rather go peacefully than in agony.

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If so then killing the animal is a form of assisted suicide assuming of course burning it is necessary life in all its glory is represented through pain , happiness etc.etc.


Umm... no. That assumption came from no where, and is overridden by the fact that such animals do not comprehend or contemplate suicide. Animals tend to want to avoid death.

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who are you to deny the rabbit [for example] the sensation of burning alive its the last feeling this animal will ever feel before it disappears and ceases to exist intirely.


What on earth are you blabbering about? It doesn't have to feel all that awful pain in the first place, this is not chance, this is a human choice that is creating it.

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Granted its not going to be pleasant but its the circle of life like when a lion eats a zebra he doesnt give it death by leathal injection it chews on it.


Oh what a load of crap.

Don't give me this circle of life bulls***. In the wild the predator and prey happens by chance, it is not a pre-determined setting. The same as getting hit by a lightning bolt - a factor beyond our control. The difference being here is that the human made a conscious decision to burn the animal alive - when he didn't have to. The human had a choice knowing there are other methods at his disposal. Hell, the decision to do something like that had NOTHING to do with survival. Something like a lion doesn't have that luxury, especially when it comes to eating for its own survival. It has no tools, no morals... it does what it only knows. Predation can't be avoided in the wild, but a human burning an animal alive in captivity certainly can!

So, what you are really saying is that humans can do whatever they want to them because the animals in question will end up dead anyway?
Sweet_Merry On June 25, 2021
One day. . . I will





Building my Castles in the Sky
#15New Post! Oct 22, 2009 @ 07:08:10
There is no good reason to burn an animal while it is alive.

We know ourselves by the way we treat the weaker of us. We are a part of the Animal Kingdom.
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