America's Homicide Rate

@hoppy Said

We're different from "other places" because our ancestors came from those "other places" to avoid being like them. Screw those "other places".

@fitzyp Said

You either didn't carefully read my post or you are being disingenuous. I was specifically comparing The US to other WESTERN nations. The problem with taking all of Europe is that it includes Russia and other Eastern European nations. For this purpose the statistic for West and Central Europe are more appropriate.

Looking at the table will show you that the rate for Central and West Europe is 1.2 still much lower than that of the US (4.8).

@fitzyp Said

Yeah f*** them and there lower homicide rates and their higher standards of living! Oh laaa dee daa look at me and my high standard of living. Damn Eurotrash!

@Oisin Said

The homicide rate in Scotland is far from ideal. it seems that you don't actually need a gun to kill someone

the reason for our high homicide rate according to Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill (and i paraphrase) is that we are all drunken junkies.

link

@fitzyp Said

Yeah f*** them and there lower homicide rates and their higher standards of living! Oh laaa dee daa look at me and my high standard of living. Damn Eurotrash!

@Pcptrvanion Said

You are the one being disingenuous.
If you want to compare ALL of the United States to ALL of Europe that's fine.
If you want to "cherry-pick" only those regions of Europe that have a low rate...there are many parts of the United States with equally low rates. Some states are below 1.0 on this scale.

@Pcptrvanion Said

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-16175439

from the BBC

The story claims that most Scottish murders are committed with a knife.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/editors-choice/2011/12/15/average-scottish-killer-is-a-drunk-young-man-with-a-knife-who-knows-his-victim-86908-23636072/

This one says much the same thing.

@fitzyp Said

This wasn't about a comparison between the US and Europe. It was a comparison between the US and Western Nations. It isn't cherry picking to exclude countries that don't fall into the category of Western nations. The reason why Eastern European states aren't useful in the comparison is because they are pretty much a different civilisation. This was meant to be a comparison of different nations in the civilisation NOT between civilisations.

If you are unfamiliar with the concept of the Western world you can find information on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_nations

@Electric_Banana Said

I prefer using a wood chipper.

@fitzyp Said

This wasn't about a comparison between the US and Europe. It was a comparison between the US and Western Nations. It isn't cherry picking to exclude countries that don't fall into the category of Western nations. The reason why Eastern European states aren't useful in the comparison is because they are pretty much a different civilisation. This was meant to be a comparison of different nations in the civilisation NOT between civilisations.

If you are unfamiliar with the concept of the Western world you can find information on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_nations

@Pcptrvanion Said

I understand your concept.
I just don't believe it to be valid.
Croatians and French are no more dissimilar than New Yorkers and Texans.

@restoreone Said

oh come on now you cherry picked Mexico and Brazil right out of it.Your own link says they are WESTERN NATIONS right.

@fitzyp Said

The term can include various groups of countries. The version of it I was intending to use was the one best represented by this map:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Civilizations_map.png