America's Homicide Rate

What you aren't understanding is that some US states would be more comparable to Eastern Europe as far as development and culture. You are comparing relatively small and insular countries with an extremely large and diverse country.

If you are going to compare a European country against anything, compare it against individual states in the US, not the US as a whole.

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Exactly.

The states with the lowest murder rates aren't the ones farthest away from the Mexican border - they're the ones with the lowest population densities and fewest large cities. The bottom 10 are New Hampshire, Vermont, Iowa, Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota, Minnesota, Hawaii, and Maine.

States with the highest areas of population density and poverty are the ones at the top, regardless of how close they are to the border. Louisiana, Pennsylvania,Florida, Delaware, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Maryland, Georgia, etc are all above the national average.

here is the rate by region and by state.please note the south leads the way. OHIO and NEW YORK are below the average yet in population they are in the top 10. https://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state

Still doesn't make a difference. A rate is a rate. If you believe there are different reasons for the homicide rates in different states please bring them up.

But the rate for a European country is more comparable to the rate for an individual state. A rate for all of Europe is comparable to a rate for all of the US.

The very reasons you said a rate for all of Europe would be unfair is exactly the reason the rate for the US looks bad. Some areas are more developed and civilized, other areas are Polk County, FL: Home of the 34 year old grandmother and pitbulls that eat babies.

But the point still changes nothing. You still haven't done any explaining as to why the rate is so high in these places.

From what I can find only two US states have a murder rate lower than Western and Central Europe (Vermont and New Hampshire). So could you please explain why the other 48 states have a higher homicide rate than the rest of the Western world?

Mostly meth and moonshine.

I didn't know that many people still drank moonshine anymore.

Also whilst America does have quite a high use of Meth, its rates aren't as high as many other Western nations that still have lower homicide rates.
https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/WDR-2010.html

But again, you are viewing the US as a whole. That is comparable to viewing Europe as a whole. Look at individual US states. The American South where the murder rates are through the roof are also the states where pretty much everyone is on meth and moonshine.

As for whether or not people still drink moonshine, it is a freaking institution in the US, especially the South.

https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/10/why_is_moonshine_against_the_law.html

Here is a decent article about moonshine in the US in general. One bust was for 1.4 million gallons of moonshine.

No it's not. United Kingdom versus Poland is not even remotely similar to Wyoming versus Florida. Not by a long shot. Not even the same ballpark. Hell, not even the same sport.

France and Russia are a lot more different than California and Alabama.



Oh, you mean like Maryland?

As far as murder rate goes?

As far as anything goes. Comparing the US to Europe in general is pretty pointless, as that includes Estonia, Romnia, Greece, etc - all of which have drastically differing cultures, values, and standards.

Among developed western nations (Western Europe, Australia) the US has a very high murder rate. That's a simple fact, and it's worth exploring why the US has such a high rate compared to other nations with similar culture.

I've been to Alabama.
From what I've heard of them Russia and Poland seem a LOT more civilized, developed, and better financed.

The costal part of Alabama is a destitute place.
I've not seen poverty like in any other part of the U.S.