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reiko On March 27, 2006

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New York, New York
#1New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 06:42:08
Why does it not apply to me? I tried to get into a medical university and I was denied. Should I not get points for not being white? Should I sue for racism because I not score high on the tests?
paramour On July 30, 2014




Purgatory Beach,
#2New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 06:50:04
I'm going to keep my opinions on affirmative action to myself . . .

but different schools use different races if they have affirmative action policies. There are some places I've seen that include x, y, & z races, whereas other places include only x & y races and maybe add the g race. It just depends.
justvr On February 20, 2006




, Wallis and Futuna
#3New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 07:10:07
@reiko Said
Why does it not apply to me? I tried to get into a medical university and I was
denied. Should I not get points for not being white? Should I sue for racism because I not
score high on the tests?


Racism is a very common theme for you.... why is that?
reiko On March 27, 2006

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New York, New York
#4New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 07:11:47
@justvr Said
Racism is a very common theme for you.... why is that?


Because it is common in america.
justvr On February 20, 2006




, Wallis and Futuna
#5New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 07:13:41
Asians are treated very badly in Sydney in my opinion, but it seems to be abating
a bit now there are lots more Asians moving here. The Asian communtity have a
whole different set of prejudices, most of them directed against each other. I
don't really understand it. Like most migrant situations, it takes time,
generations, to settle down..... It should be given that time....
reiko On March 27, 2006

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New York, New York
#6New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 07:19:42
I don't know about Australia but in america you have jobs and places in school that are decided if you are white, black or latino.
The fact you are black or latino will be factors if you get in school because they say white racism forces that. Ok I'm not white or black or latino why am I not included?
pissyjoey On January 21, 2007




Midwest City, Oklahoma
#7New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 08:12:14
@reiko Said
The fact you are black or latino will be factors if you get in school because they say white racism forces that. Ok I'm not white or black or latino why am I not included?


Yeah, you should look into it. It's a pretty weird deal. I am 110% in favor of affirmative action... too many history and sociology classes I guess. Minorities have been screwed and still are being screwed in this country.

But the Asian deal is f***ed up. What I've learned is that Asians sort of get shafted. Some colleges actually deduct points from Asians when considering admission. Colleges try to have a student body that is representative of the general population of the country and there often seems to be "too many" Asians who want to go to college. Pretty f***ed up, eh? Of course it depends on the area... Japanese do far better than Vietnamese for example.

Race is still a big factor in American life... I think efforts should be made to right the wrongs of the past... to Asians, to women, to blacks, to Native Americans, to children, etc. It just sucks when Americans (minorities even!) attack policies that attempt to enforce racial justice. It reminds me of when the schools were desegregated in the South... people were so pissed off about it just as people are pissed off about affirmative action now. While affirmative action helps only a handful of minorities and affects only a miniscule percent of whites, racist America still hates the program.
justvr On February 20, 2006




, Wallis and Futuna
#8New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 08:15:58
@reiko Said
I don't know about Australia but in america you have jobs and places in school
that are decided if you are white, black or latino.
The fact you are black or latino will be factors if you get in school because they say white
racism forces that. Ok I'm not white or black or latino why am I not included?


I'd have one guess and say its because you are identified as stonger and better able to
compete. The advantage of affirmative action is it discriminates positively to redress past
inequality. The downside is that it has to be at the expense of the present generation who
weren't responsible for the sins of the past.

Mind you, I'd divert funds from weapons and wars and provide an eduction for everyone
reiko On March 27, 2006

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New York, New York
#9New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 09:44:20
@pissyjoey Said
I am 110% in favor of affirmative action...

State sanctioned racism isn't the answer. You should be ashamed to support such a racist policy.

@pissyjoey Said
Race is still a big factor in American life

True because people like you keep racism alive and well
@pissyjoey Said
I think efforts should be made to right the wrongs of the past...
Good idea lets punish those who live now that had nothing to do with the past. Good strategy for moving ahead to a non racist society.
@pissyjoey Said

to Asians, to women, to blacks, to Native Americans, to children, etc. It just sucks when Americans (minorities even!) attack policies that attempt to enforce racial justice.
Supporting policies that are racist do nothing to advance racial equality.
@pissyjoey Said

It reminds me of when the schools were desegregated in the South... people were so pissed off about it just as people are pissed off about affirmative action now.

One form of racism is wrong to you but another form is not. You are a hypocrite.
@pissyjoey Said

While affirmative action helps only a handful of minorities

Like who? Those that didn't score high enough to get into medical school like me?
I would rather be denied based on my scores than excepted based on my race. I believe in merit. Race should not be a factor ever. My comments as to why affirmitive action does not apply to me was to point out the hypocrisy of the idea.
I would be very angry if some court told me I was too stupid to compete on an equal basis with white people and should get extra points based on my race alone.
Please do us minorities a favor and stop condoning racism.
justvr On February 20, 2006




, Wallis and Futuna
#10New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 09:47:27
@reiko Said
State sanctioned racism isn't the answer. You should be ashamed to support
such a racist policy.


True because people like you keep racism alive and well
Good idea lets punish those who live now that had nothing to do with the past. Good
strategy for moving ahead to a non racist society.
Supporting policies that are racist do nothing to advance racial equality.

One form of racism is wrong to you but another form is not. You are a hypocrite.

Like who? Those that didn't score high enough to get into medical school like me?
I would rather be denied based on my scores than excepted based on my race. I believe in
merit. Race should not be a factor ever. My comments as to why affirmitive action does not
apply to me was to point out the hypocrisy of the idea.
I would be very angry if some court told me I was too stupid to compete on an equal basis
with white people and should get extra points based on my race alone.
Please do us minorities a favor and stop condoning racism.


WELL, That is a well thought out argument whether you agree with it or not
reiko On March 27, 2006

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New York, New York
#11New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 09:55:27
@justvr Said
WELL, That is a well thought out argument whether you agree with it or not


But it's true. To react against racism with racism will not move anything forward. When I first learned how rampant affirmitive action was I was scared I was hired into my job only to fill some quota. I don't want that! I don't want to get a job or get accepted into a school just because they don't have enough asians. I want to get hired or admitted based on my experience or scores.
bravo_zulu On December 07, 2006




New Sodom, Indiana
#12New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 10:01:57
I find I fare better when I stay away from politics, but I have to say Reiko hit the nail on the head.
justvr On February 20, 2006




, Wallis and Futuna
#13New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 10:17:24
@reiko Said
But it's true. To react against racism with racism will not move anything
forward. When I first learned how rampant affirmitive action was I was scared I was hired into
my job only to fill some quota. I don't want that! I don't want to get a job or get accepted into
a school just because they don't have enough asians. I want to get hired or admitted based
on my experience or scores.


Zulu, you're here....... and you are right. Reiko is spot on...
reiko On March 27, 2006

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New York, New York
#14New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 10:26:00
@justvr Said
The Asian communtity have a
whole different set of prejudices, most of them directed against each other.

That is true in NYC too. I find koreans don't like me much because I'm japanese. The same goes for chinese. The japanese did some really horrible things to both in the first half of the 20th century and it still echos in today's generations.
Hopefuly that will be gone soon.
justvr On February 20, 2006




, Wallis and Futuna
#15New Post! Jan 14, 2006 @ 10:32:22
@reiko Said
That is true in NYC too. I find koreans don't like me much because I'm
japanese. The same goes for chinese. The japanese did some really horrible things to both in
the first half of the 20th century and it still echos in today's generations.
Hopefuly that will be gone soon.


Thats the bad bit about the past, it splashes on people who didn't do it, and don't deserve it.
Most of the people doing the blaming didn't have it happen to them. I know veterans from
WWII and most of them are over it....
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