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Adam and Eve could not love God or each other before eating of the Tree of Knowledge.

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GreatestIam2 On July 29, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#1New Post! Jun 13, 2014 @ 13:57:03
Adam and Eve could not love God or each other before eating of the Tree of Knowledge.

The Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil is the tree of love. Would you abstain from eating of it and lose the ability to Love?

Adam and Eve, mythical representatives of you and I, could not love without eating of the tree of knowledge. It holds the knowledge of love as love has good and evil components.

Love, as we all know is quite good. Like most concepts though, it has some evil to it as well as the good. Adam and Eve were thus ignorant of what love was because it has good and evil aspects. Unfortunately, part of being in ignorant bliss of evil, is having to suffer not knowing the beauty of love.

You may have noted that God gets angry when his commands are broken. Genesis 3 is clear in this. God did not get angry at A & E in Genesis 1 where they ignored his command to reproduce because God knew that for man, it is desirable to have love as a prerequisite to sex. God forgave this first disobedience because Adam and Eve were still innocent and did not know they were naked. God thus takes sex out of the lower animal dimension and elevates it in our minds for social reasons.

Wanting Adam and Eve to know love, God drew Satan to Eden to minister to his needs and make sure that Eve ate of the Tree of knowledge/love. She did as bid and the rest as they say is mythical biblical history.

If God attaches sex and love and knows that knowledge of good and evil are required to find or recognize love, then to think that he would want to deny mankind the knowledge of love, with it’s good and evil components, is ridiculous. Sex and reproduction would also fly out the window.

So why do you Christians think God would deny you love, though Adam and Eve that is?

Christians say that Eden was a fall for man yet God said we became as Gods. I see it as being able to love, --- at last.
My bible tells me to emulate God just as yours does yet Christians find fault in becoming as Gods.

Are Christians afraid to love? Is that why they have made an idol of the word and call their God --- Love?

If in Eden, and knowing as you do now, that to know love you have to disobey God, and have to know good and evil, --- would you disobey and eat of the tree of knowledge/love, --- knowing that you could not love if you did not?

Regards
DL
Hypnotica On June 11, 2020

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Steel City (Sheffield), United
#2New Post! Jun 13, 2014 @ 14:34:35
Love is just the opposite of hate. Without hate, well there is neither. There is just as it is.

Its like light and dark. One cannot exist without the other.

If there is never any light, then darkness does not exist as there is nothing to compare it too.
Electric_Banana On about 7 hours ago




, New Zealand
#3New Post! Jun 13, 2014 @ 15:37:52
We could guesstimate that maybe the 'Tree of Knowledge' is that psychic information-sharing network that some of us expect exists.

"I hoid it through the grapevine..."

The more I think about it, however, I really suspect that both the Islam and Christian Bibles were intended as science fiction / fantasy promoting some morals and insights to give them more depth - The exact same thing we've been doing this whole time (especially through Hollywood).

Look at it like this - Story telling is thee oldest form of entertainment and finding ourselves dumped by who-knows-what into a peculiar and undisclosed territory is bound to serve grande muse for many a tale.
Electric_Banana On about 7 hours ago




, New Zealand
#4New Post! Jun 13, 2014 @ 15:43:47
Attempting to empathize with whomever wrote the book of Genesis (however) we could say that with knowledge comes the inevitable habit of judging others around us hence why 'enmity' was placed between Adam and Eve - Once they began taking notice of one another for each others faults it led to arguments....

And I don't suspect that would be something a disembodied mind would impose on those two intentionally - Unless the fruit from the tree psychically tied both Adam and Eve to that disembodied mind thereby seeing one another the way that mind would on top of the default way they were meant to respect one another.

But why then would you design a species of creature intentionally hosting much lower standards than your own?
GreatestIam2 On July 29, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#5New Post! Jun 19, 2014 @ 19:29:58
@Hypnotica Said

Love is just the opposite of hate. Without hate, well there is neither. There is just as it is.

Its like light and dark. One cannot exist without the other.

If there is never any light, then darkness does not exist as there is nothing to compare it too.


No argument on duality.

Care to try an answer to the question?

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On July 29, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#6New Post! Jun 19, 2014 @ 19:32:05
@Electric_Banana Said

We could guesstimate that maybe the 'Tree of Knowledge' is that psychic information-sharing network that some of us expect exists.

"I hoid it through the grapevine..."

The more I think about it, however, I really suspect that both the Islam and Christian Bibles were intended as science fiction / fantasy promoting some morals and insights to give them more depth - The exact same thing we've been doing this whole time (especially through Hollywood).

Look at it like this - Story telling is thee oldest form of entertainment and finding ourselves dumped by who-knows-what into a peculiar and undisclosed territory is bound to serve grande muse for many a tale.


Good logic and reason.

Apply that to the question and opine please.

Can you love without the knowledge of good and evil?

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On July 29, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#7New Post! Jun 19, 2014 @ 19:34:10
@Electric_Banana Said

Attempting to empathize with whomever wrote the book of Genesis (however) we could say that with knowledge comes the inevitable habit of judging others around us hence why 'enmity' was placed between Adam and Eve - Once they began taking notice of one another for each others faults it led to arguments....

And I don't suspect that would be something a disembodied mind would impose on those two intentionally - Unless the fruit from the tree psychically tied both Adam and Eve to that disembodied mind thereby seeing one another the way that mind would on top of the default way they were meant to respect one another.

But why then would you design a species of creature intentionally hosting much lower standards than your own?


The story does not. A & E grew to be as Gods but only after learning to love from the tree of knowledge.

Regards
DL
Electric_Banana On about 7 hours ago




, New Zealand
#8New Post! Jun 20, 2014 @ 02:23:41
@GreatestIam2 Said

Good logic and reason.

Apply that to the question and opine please.

Can you love without the knowledge of good and evil?

Regards
DL



I don't consider 'Evil' as 'Evil' I highly suspect it is an intentionally backwards mental process.

A dichotomy which allows for variation of personality & independence from one another.

A free will granting the feature to act autonomously by our own ideas instead of being accidentally swept into motion by the thoughts of those in our vicinity like empty puppets being drug around by their puppeteers.

I also suspect 'Evil' or 'Satan' is a mechanical process and not a person (any person that old would have matured by now) that serves to vilify new encounters to keep us on guard in instance they are predators. More so than a witch in our heads falsely accusing those around us it is meant to be a Robby The Robot subtly alerting us to the possibility of danger.

With maturity comes experience and with experience; knowledge...knowledge of how to better master that 'Robby the Robot' so it doesn't get far out of hand.
GreatestIam2 On July 29, 2020




Ottawa, Canada
#9New Post! Aug 01, 2014 @ 19:49:00
Interesting but again.

Can you love without the knowledge of good and evil?

Can you even desire it?

Regards
DL
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