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SparklyKatie On March 07, 2014
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Sheffield, United Kingdom
#1New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:16:56
With all the problems yesterday with people not being able to vote do you think the system should be updated for the 21st century? How hard would it be to set up a digital voting system where people could vote via the internet?

Not only would it stop things like this happening again but it might increase turnout as I'm sure more people would vote if they could do it from the comfort of their sofa rather than standing in line in the rain for an hour.

Inquiry as voters miss out as polls shut
_Samantha_ On May 19, 2010

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, United Kingdom
#2New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:20:16
Yeah, I thought it would be sorta hi tech and bright fuchsia carpets.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#3New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:20:39
Digital voting is bulls***.

Paper ballots are the way to go, end of story.
_Samantha_ On May 19, 2010

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, United Kingdom
#4New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:21:46
@jonnythan Said

Digital voting is bulls***.

Paper ballots are the way to go, end of story.



Why? 8)
Pete On March 28, 2012
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Central Scotland, United Kingd
#5New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:21:47
I don't think it should be done using the internet (well depends on the deffinition of "internet" )

But I do think it should be computerized, and if last night shows anything, longer opening times, or close at 10, but they are allowed to stay open if there are large queing or something.
SparklyKatie On March 07, 2014
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Sheffield, United Kingdom
#6New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:21:48
@jonnythan Said

Digital voting is bulls***.

Paper ballots are the way to go, end of story.


Urmm why do you think that?
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#7New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:24:33
@SparklyKatie Said

Urmm why do you think that?


Because it's true. Security, accountability, traceability, and verification on digital voting machines or the internet is virtually impossible.

Paper is simple, easy, verifiable, and trackable, and easily recountable. Not subject to hacking or bugs. In fact, the best digital voting mechanisms are the ones that actually produce paper printouts.

There is nothing wrong with paper ballots. Paper > digital.
SparklyKatie On March 07, 2014
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Sheffield, United Kingdom
#8New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:30:15
@jonnythan Said

Because it's true. Security, accountability, traceability, and verification on digital voting machines or the internet is virtually impossible.

Paper is simple, easy, verifiable, and trackable, and easily recountable. Not subject to hacking or bugs. In fact, the best digital voting mechanisms are the ones that actually produce paper printouts.

There is nothing wrong with paper ballots. Paper > digital.


Ok but couldn't you incorporate digital voting with a paper system? Where each eligible voter got a unique ID code sent though the post which they would have to enter when they voted online?

They send PIN's through the post and if you didn't recieve one you could phone a number and get a new one? Almost everyone who uses telephone banking has to confirm their identity over the phone. It would have to be a bit more thorough but it's still possible, no?
_Samantha_ On May 19, 2010

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#9New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 18:33:03
@SparklyKatie Said

Ok but couldn't you incorporate digital voting with a paper system? Where each eligible voter got a unique ID code sent though the post which they would have to enter when they voted online?

They send PIN's through the post and if you didn't recieve one you could phone a number and get a new one? Almost everyone who uses telephone banking has to confirm their identity over the phone. It would have to be a bit more thorough but it's still possible, no?


Yeah. PINs work ok for cashpoints.Some people just like things to be oldy fashioned.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#10New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 19:02:17
@SparklyKatie Said

Ok but couldn't you incorporate digital voting with a paper system? Where each eligible voter got a unique ID code sent though the post which they would have to enter when they voted online?

They send PIN's through the post and if you didn't recieve one you could phone a number and get a new one? Almost everyone who uses telephone banking has to confirm their identity over the phone. It would have to be a bit more thorough but it's still possible, no?


OK, so how does the massive, massive expense of digital voting somehow make voting better when you still have paper anyway?
_Samantha_ On May 19, 2010

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, United Kingdom
#11New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 19:07:52
@jonnythan Said

OK, so how does the massive, massive expense of digital voting somehow make voting better when you still have paper anyway?



If its done right, Its gotta be quicker than paper counting for a start.
x_Laura_x On January 28, 2021




Nowhere, United Kingdom
#14New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 19:23:18
I'm with Jon on this one, paper is better.
_Samantha_ On May 19, 2010

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, United Kingdom
#15New Post! May 07, 2010 @ 19:23:35
@jonnythan Said

Wouldn't it make more sense to simply avoid administrative cockups than spend hundreds of millions of dollars on digital systems to be run by largely untrained staff?


So train the staff a bit lol. If it makes it fairer and quicker and can be secure then why not? Paper voting isnt foolproof either. All I got was a form thing through the door, and no-one asked for proof of ID when I went to vote. If we'd moved house anyone could have used my vote.
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