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ualrlaw On June 18, 2004




#1New Post! Mar 28, 2004 @ 06:52:06
Kerry voted to send our troops to war and then voted against funding them. As a senator, Kerry has voted to increase taxes over 300 times. Here is the link: https://commrnc.grassroots.com/resources/KerryVotesForHigherTaxes.pdf
Kerry said that the threat from terrorism is "overstated." Kerry complains about the outsourcing of U.S. jobs yet he voted for NAFTA. Kerry complains about the Patriot Act yet he voted for it. Kerry complains about U.S. Intelligence failures prior to 911 yet he has consistently voted to cut Intelligence funding. see e.g. 1452 to H.R. 3759. (S. 1826, Introduced 2/3/94); S. 1290, Introduced 9/29/95;(H.R. 2076, CQ Vote #480: Adopted 49-41: R 9-40; D 40-1, 9/29/95;H.R. 3759, CQ Vote #39: Rejected 20-75: R 3-37; D 17-38, 2/10/94.

Kerry cannot be trusted. Bush-Cheney '04.
panetti On February 17, 2005




Little Rock, Arkansas
#2New Post! Mar 28, 2004 @ 14:51:29
Yeah, I just don't get Kerry. It seems to me his entire campaign is "Bush sucks!" And that's about it...I dunno man, I keep trying to understand Democrats, but they just confuse the snot out of me. To each their own though I guess. Definately voting Bush in November though, despite the fact my television wants me to believe he's Satan incarnate. Go fig!
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#3New Post! Mar 29, 2004 @ 03:16:55
Kerry has the right to change his mind. To me that is better than lying. It is so obvious to me and apparently to the world that Bush has one agenda, and it is his own(or rather his families and donors). Who gives a flip that Kerry is rich. For god sake that is what we all want. You can't bust a guy for getting it. He went to war and fought hard, which most of us(bush) can't say. He may have some secret plan to make the US preppy, but he sure isn't out there giving OUR country a bad name. Bush is. He is trying to push democracy as a world government. He has no right to do that. Kerry's vote against pay raises for military are part a plan to pay all the bills. Yes the military needs money, I want my sister(7 years in Army) to get rich like Kerry. She sure as hell won't do it in the army Bush or Kerry. My point is that you can't go saying things like he said about Iraq and then try to blame it on faulty intellegence. Hell we piss to many countries off and our country is going to get the hell beat out of it, economically and physically. It is true and blatant arrogance to assume a world wide position of authourity when the world outnumbers us. I want our country to be around for awhile, and I want her to be a positive force in the world.
To say that bush's infringements on our civil rights is necessary to protect us, is just a fancy way of saying he doesn't think we can protect ourselves and be upfront about it.
I applaud your choice to vote, you have that right. I respect it.
ualrlaw On June 18, 2004




#4New Post! Mar 29, 2004 @ 04:17:30
President Bush will do what he has to do to protect America and American interests. He will not seek a permission slip from the UN to defend America from terrorist regimes and the nations that support them. I could care less if France, Germany or the rest of Europe disagree with American policy. We are in a war against terrorism. You cannot appease terrorists. Their only desire is the destruction of the West. They hate America because of our freedoms, our traditions and our way of life. John Kerry thinks the threat from terrorism is "overstated." I suggest he ask the families of the 911 victims if that is true.
panetti On February 17, 2005




Little Rock, Arkansas
#5New Post! Mar 29, 2004 @ 05:45:40
UALRLAW, seems you and I think very much alike. I agree on all those points.

jeoin, though we're on opposite sides of the fence, you sound like you know what you're talking about and have a well-founded viewpoint, and it's refreshing to see someone who can disagree respectfully. I think most all of us, Dems and Repubs alike, all have the same end in mind for our nation (a better, safer US); we just disagree on the means to get there. As much as I disagree with Kerry and dislike his attacks, I DON'T believe he's some villain sitting around pondering "mwahaha, how can I screw up the nation today?" He seems like he could be a decent fellow. I just wish he'd spend less time telling me how bad Bush is and more time telling me what he has to offer.

But hey, as they say, let the best man win!
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#6New Post! Mar 29, 2004 @ 18:01:34
I think the beauty of our country is the fact that we can remain united and still have differing opinions. This same concept can be applied to the world view. There has to be a way for differing views to exist together. I agree with statement above that Bush will do what it takes to protect the US, however I disagree that Kerry wouldn't be as effective. Whoever was president during 9/11 would have responded with force. It is easy to say that it was Bill Clintons fault for failing to rid the world of Osama, but hell Bush hasn't done that either. He went immediately for the OILY kneck of Saddam. This wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't clear that there was a family motivation for the move. Hell the guy threatened his fathers life. I would want to kick anyones Butt that did that. The president however should have more tact. He wanted Saddam, and he got him. Maybe one day Iraq will be better off, but at the moment it isn't doing that good of a job. From security, to the hell of liberty. Saddam shouldn't have been in office, but somethings have to be done by the poeple. No one wants to have a big brother ordering the world to be a set way. That is what Bush wants. The world should be Democratic to him, but I say that is a dangerous view. Start trying to push your world-views and one day the world will start to push back. As far as the muslim nations go, they spend alot of energy fighting each other. One day I believe that they will get a responce not from the Government of the United States, but from the people. That is where the real power always presides. There is no true accountability over there. Israel and Palestine are both wrong, Till they realize that problems will abound. I despise the sad trickery that suicide bombers resort to. They hide behind false beliefs. Mohammed would never have been bomber, nor would he have lured innocent children to carry out bombings.
ualrlaw On June 18, 2004




#7New Post! Mar 29, 2004 @ 21:14:05
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He went immediately for the OILY kneck of Saddam


The Left in this country continue to claim that this was a war for oil, as you made reference to in the above quote. However, there is not one shred of evidence to support that contention. Where is the benefit from that oil in the U.S.? Fuel prices are at an all time high. OPEC continues to decrease production. Show us the proof that this was a war for oil.
sin_tastes_like_rainbows On September 07, 2005




#8New Post! Mar 29, 2004 @ 23:01:39
What would politics be without corruption?
panetti On February 17, 2005




Little Rock, Arkansas
#9New Post! Mar 29, 2004 @ 23:13:10
Yeah, I think that's a catch-22 -- how could we go for anything but the oily neck? EVERYTHING there is oil! They run around openly claiming they're going to kill us, blow up our Trade Center, and when we go over there to do some butt-kicking, it's of course for ... the oil? Aren't these the same Democrats who say the Republicans are for "the rich" while they themselves roll around in their money?

By this logic, if someone with a fancy car punches me in the face, I better not fight back, because it will mean I'm fighting him to get his car. Gotta love that logic! Screwed if ya do, screwed if ya don't!

Which is why, if you refer to the thread I started in this category, I think partisanship is on the borderline of being very sucky. If we didn't have all this partisanship crap, perhaps we could talk about other things, such as, oh I don't know, the actual issues?

My point, then, is this: You should all make ME president!
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#10New Post! Mar 30, 2004 @ 01:20:39
We jumped right in there to help them, sent dozens of our finest to their aid. I have no direct proof that the oil was the goal, just as you have none that it isn't... If you want to say it was other than oil and bush just wanted to help some poor folks out then you run into the Haiti wall, and south america and asia and all the people that "say they hate america". I propose that the primary source of their hatred is this arrogant attitude our country has. Its no better than them saying they are going to kill us. So our plan is not to just be brave and say it upfront, we sneak around invent some nuclear weapons and then attack. Saddam couldn't have hurt us, no way. You can't prove that either way, but the fact is he had a fence around him amile high, and it was working. Now we lose our men every day, that isn't cool. So much for their pay raise. There are alot more serious issues out there. What about bush and the environment. You probably don't believe in global warming, probably think forests need to be cut down and we need an OIL well in every backyard(alaska). There was that oil word again. Are you saying our government can't protect us without sneaking around and spyin on us and them. I believe we can do it.
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#11New Post! Mar 30, 2004 @ 01:27:17
If a guy punches you in the face----When did we get punched?
I think its okay to fight the guy as long as you see some chemical weapons under his shirt.

I am not trying to be rude. I just don't see where we were hit by Iraq.
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#12New Post! Mar 30, 2004 @ 01:30:59
https://www.theglobalist.com/DBWeb/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=2886

neat oil perspective link...
deadjim On December 23, 2010




Little Rock, Arkansas
#13New Post! Mar 30, 2004 @ 01:31:38
Ok. Someone show me the proof that this war is justified. For one, All of our "intelligence" has been negated and everything we have said about their WMD's has been false. For two, Iraq is harboring terrorists? Prove that one! Iraq is harboring terrosists? I have yet to see any proof of that. There is a difference in harboring terrorists and having easy access to a country due to weak borders.
Three, our "good buddies" in Saudi Arabia have harbored terrorists.. *wink wink nudge nudge. keep up the work good buds*
Four, Our "corporate buds" in china allow oppression and evil to happen to their own citizens.

Where does Iraq come in all of this?
jeoin On November 12, 2004




#14New Post! Mar 30, 2004 @ 01:57:23
jim your points are excellent.. I forgot to mention our aggresive responce to north korea. we kicked their butt..
Don't hold your breath waiting for the bush-ites to counter your points..
saladin On November 18, 2004




#15New Post! Mar 30, 2004 @ 19:39:51
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As far as the muslim nations go, they spend alot of energy fighting each other. One day I believe that they will get a responce not from the Government of the United States, but from the people.


Indeed. But the unfortunate fact is, the Muslim scholars over there are afraid of condemning the dictators cause obviously, they'll get killed. This is why Muslims in the United States and Britain should take advantage and start condemning the dictators of the Arab world. There have been many prominent Muslims and scholars who've condemned them(i.e. Hamza Yusuf, Michael Wolfe), but they are hardly given any room in the media to make thier point.

Note too that even in the United States, thier lives would be in danger. Dictators such as Mubarak have, should I say "spies", who are out to give any details of people who are out to start a subversion of any kind. Apparently, Muslims are waiting for some Muslim scholar in the United States who would get in a position good enough to make his statements heard throughout the Arab world. None exist as of this day.


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There is no true accountability over there. Israel and Palestine are both wrong, Till they realize that problems will abound. I despise the sad trickery that suicide bombers resort to. They hide behind false beliefs. Mohammed would never have been bomber, nor would he have lured innocent children to carry out bombings.


Israel and Palestine have been going at it for almost fifty years. Both need to realize that so far, everything they've done for the past 50 years hasn't helped achieve peace whatsoever. More suicide bombings will lead to more retaliations. More Israeli strikes and assasinations will create more terrorists, and so, more suicide bombings.

You are indeed correct about Muhammad. Nice to see someone who has a good sense of one of the most influential men in history.
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