Give channel refugees a chance?

@offbeat Said

Just read a headline, here it is..... 'Give refugees crossing channel a Chance Say Windrush Survivors!' Interesting that. The Windrush survivors were dragged through some unnecessary s**t recently and i would hate for them to suffer the consequences of having a significant number of economic migrants squeezed into their neighbourhoods. Hopefully the Windrush survivors have become middle class and moved from the s**t areas which means that other inner city dwellers will suffer instead.

@Jennifer1984 Said



Or does this 'headline' not exist and you're simply making it up to be inflammatory..? Please feel free to prove my suspicions wrong. Post the link.

@Jennifer1984 Said

Suffer..?

What is it that makes you think having migrants here is some sort of sufferance..?

It would also help if you could attach a link to the (alleged) 'headline' so we could all read it and see exactly what it is you're responding to. We could then all make up our own minds.

Or does this 'headline' not exist and you're simply making it up to be inflammatory..? Please feel free to prove my suspicions wrong. Post the link.

@offbeat Said

i don't know how to post a link, but i'm willing to swear on the life of my only child that i would never quote a headline that didn't come from a news agency. ( good grief, you must think so little of me to think i would lie like that ). It exists. The suffrage being the demand for housing in an area that is short of housing already etc.

@dookie Said

The actual housing shortage is far more to do with the decisions and inaction of successive UK Governments than actual numbers, whether constituted by UK citizens, migrants or EU nationals. Our immigrants PAY THEIR WAY tax wise.

(Personally I believe that a shortage of housing is looked upon benignly by Tory Governments, for various reasons)

@offbeat Said

It doesn't matter why there is a housing shortage. The important thing is that there is a housing shortage. You're approaching this from the wrong angle, making it about the shortcomings of UK government. My concern here is that those Windrush people might have shot themselves in the foot. All i can assume is that they're in a nice area now. Somewhere peaceful and beautiful, somewhere that has hardly any scumbags causing mayhem, perhaps they have moved to Jen's area, the peaceful West country. We can only hope... p.s Labour 'Mayor' sadiq Khan got into power on the promise of building over 100,000 houses in London. He has totally failed on that promise. The guy is a waste of space!

@dookie Said

I read about the concerns of the "Windrush people" as you call them. Their concerns were/are far more nuanced (!) than you own "concerns". This being so, it is in fact you that approaches this from the wrong angle.

So much is inter-related. Your failure to see beyond your very own "bullet points" makes you virtually incapable of reasoned debate.

@offbeat Said

Jeez, you said 'nuanced' again! How else can i refer to them except as the 'windrush people?' That's what they were called in the 'news' piece? And typical leftie tactic by you there ... Whenever their views are opposed they say that the opponent is unreasonable, unintelligent, ill informed etc. They often use far worse names to shut down debate but i'll give you your due and say that you haven't gone that far.

@dookie Said

Ha ha! Do you think you are the only one here who says things to wind others up! Calm down, calm dowm.

I can only draw conclusions from my experience. You demonstrated very convincingly that a lot of your unyielding views on the legal system and its enforcement was drawn from watching TV shows. Then have the audacity to claim those who dispute with you are "brainwashed"!

@offbeat Said

It doesn't matter why there is a housing shortage. The important thing is that there is a housing shortage. You're approaching this from the wrong angle, making it about the shortcomings of UK government. My concern here is that those Windrush people might have shot themselves in the foot. All i can assume is that they're in a nice area now. Somewhere peaceful and beautiful, somewhere that has hardly any scumbags causing mayhem, perhaps they have moved to Jen's area, the peaceful West country. We can only hope... p.s Labour 'Mayor' sadiq Khan got into power on the promise of building over 100,000 houses in London. He has totally failed on that promise. The guy is a waste of space!

@Jennifer1984 Said

He's made a start. Houses don't sprout up like mushrooms overnight. It takes many years to get programmes started from scratch, especially after years of neglect by the former incumbent of the post (guess who).

Building Council Homes For Londoners

The programme has started. It will deliver in the fullness of time. Of that I'm sure.

The only other thing I'm sure of is that if a Tory takes over as Mayor at the next election, the programme would be stopped immediately, and the new incumbent will claim credit for all the good things that happened before he took office.

Just like the last Tory Mayor of London.

@offbeat Said

I've got no time for Khan or that t*** who is now in charge of the country. In fact i regard all politicians as self serving egotists. But, i don't like it when they talk the talk to get the job but don't deliver once they are in office.

@Jennifer1984 Said

It is true he has yet to deliver but it can be said he is in the process of delivering.

Rome.....or in this case, London.....wasn't built in a day.