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A moment is a dimensionless point at which an event becomes perceptible.
The dimensionless point when an event becomes perceptible is the NOW.
There is no time other than now.
A contiguous series of now is experienced as reality.
The moment that the interval becomes perceptible it constitutes a perceptible (measurable) unit.
If: we use [Plank time] as the smallest possible unit of time [interval]
Then: there are trillions and trillions of instants in a perceptible moment.
Note: The moment is a dimensionless point that is called NOW
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Electric_Banana
| @Erimitus Said 
There is no time other than now.
What about the possibility that we are existing in an interactive story for which there already is an ending.
Like a video game. In a video game's NOW I may have just found a sword but on the same disc that sword and NOW are written too so is the ending...
Here in the future is there already but we can't fast forward to it from our end...... |
mrmhead
| @Erimitus Said
A moment is a dimensionless point at which an event becomes perceptible.
The dimensionless point when an event becomes perceptible is the NOW.
There is no time other than now.
A contiguous series of now is experienced as reality.
The moment that the interval becomes perceptible it constitutes a perceptible (measurable) unit.
If: we use [Plank time] as the smallest possible unit of time [interval]
Then: there are trillions and trillions of instants in a perceptible moment.
Note: The moment is a dimensionless point that is called NOW
And then we spin back to the discussion of Subjective : Who's perception?
My perception is different than yours.
So my Reality is different than yours.
So my Now is different than yours.
So my Time is different than yours.
Let's face it - we're just two different people, and maybe too different.  |
Erimitus
| @Electric_Banana Said
What about the possibility that we are existing in an interactive story for which there already is an ending.
Like a video game. In a video game's NOW I may have just found a sword but on the same disc that sword and NOW are written too so is the ending...
Here in the future is there already but we can't fast forward to it from our end......
The Game
I am [the Experiencer]
I experience a [virtual world]
I am
I have an [avatar]
I am not [my avatar]
My avatar does not experience
I experience my avatar
I am [the player]
I am [a player] in [a game].
I am the player in a game
EB: …we are existing in an interactive story for which there already is an ending.
Mike: My avatar exists in the game. I experience my avatar. I look at a sword in the game world. That sword exists for me as long as I am looking at it. When I am not looking at the sword it is only data.
Mike: Could the game crash and take my avatar with it?! Yes.
Mike: I suppose a game could be programmed in a loop so now is lived repeatedly. However, as I see it, wherever the avatar is in the loop it in the players now.
EB: Here in the future is there already but we can't fast forward to it from our end......
Mike: I do not understand…. |
Erimitus
| @mrmhead Said
And then we spin back to the discussion of Subjective : Who's perception?
My perception is different than yours.
So my Reality is different than yours.
So my Now is different than yours.
So my Time is different than yours.
Let's face it - we're just two different people, and maybe too different.
Mr. And then we spin back to the discussion of Subjective : Who's perception?
Mike: The player is the perceiver (Experiencer)
Mr. My perception is different than yours.
Mike: Yes. …different but similar
Mr. So my Reality is different than yours.
Mike: Yes. …different but similar
Mr. So my Now is different than yours.
Mike: within the same frame of reference our now should be similar.
Mr. So my Time is different than yours.
Mike: yes …depending on our relationship with each other in space-time.
WE are individual units of consciousness,,, |
Darkman666
| two points reach at the end of each others, only difference are both come from a different directions.
a pointless dimension comes to end, nothing inside in the dimension any substances or meaning. |
Erimitus
| @darkman666 Said
two points reach at the end of each others, only difference are both come from a different directions.
a pointless dimension comes to end, nothing inside in the dimension any substances or meaning.
If I understand correctly you are talking about a fourth dimension. That, I am afraid, is over my head. |
Erimitus
| @darkman666 Said
I wasn't think that way, maybe you are right. what is this dimensionless point, it is one of your famous thread? keep on going on and on no ending! 
it sound like this dimensionless point is like " the red line " in the universe, the universe will keep on expand with no ending. you were at the beginning of the point and looking at the end, what you think it is the ending, only your perception of the dimension, but the end of it.
Z: what is this dimensionless point
Mike: A dimensionless point is hypothetical
Dimension 101
A dimension, in this context, is the number of points needed to find a location.
Any location on a line can be located with one point. (The line is one dimensional)
A location on a plain can be located with two points [X and Y] (a plain is two dimensional)
A location in a cube is located with three points [X, Y, and Z] (a cube has three dimensions.)
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mrmhead
| @Erimitus Said
Z: what is this dimensionless point
Mike: A dimensionless point is hypothetical
Dimension 101
A dimension, in this context, is the number of points needed to find a location.
Any location on a line can be located with one point. (The line is one dimensional)
A location on a plain can be located with two points [X and Y] (a plain is two dimensional)
A location in a cube is located with three points [X, Y, and Z] (a cube has three dimensions.)
I'll challenge that:
A Point on a line is defined by the measure of one dimension.
A Point in a plane is defined by the measure of two dimensions.
A Point in a cube is defined by the measure of three dimensions.
The "measure" is a quantity of arbitrary units.
What you say as "Location" is still a Point.
Two points define a line
Three points define a plane |
chaski
Stalker
| Moment is one of our many words with vague definitions that make communicating so much fun (and probably help out lawyers and politicians alike).
Others include:
> some... an unspecified amount or number...a small amount...
> few... not many but more than one... (
> many... a large number of...
> there can be fun also. unlike here, which is obvious, there can be more or less specific depending on the qualifiers in the sentence.
> they & them & we & us are great for dividing people into nebulous groupings... of course we & us at least imply specificity.
etc
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Darkman666
| @Erimitus Said
Z: what is this dimensionless point
Mike: A dimensionless point is hypothetical
Dimension 101
A dimension, in this context, is the number of points needed to find a location.
Any location on a line can be located with one point. (The line is one dimensional)
A location on a plain can be located with two points [X and Y] (a plain is two dimensional)
A location in a cube is located with three points [X, Y, and Z] (a cube has three dimensions.)
we live in three dimension. a point has two dimension. a point has one entrance and one exit. with three dimension has wide and depth of the dimension. so a pointless dimension is dimension is that lost and without purpose of exist. |
Electric_Banana
| @Erimitus Said
EB: Here in the future is there already but we can't fast forward to it from our end......
Mike: I do not understand….
On a video game DVD
The ending and credits are already written on it
even though you have only made it past the first chapter
Twenty years from now is already etched in stone and we only
have marginal control over the way in which the winds blow us
to that already pre-coded ending. |
Erimitus
| @Electric_Banana Said
On a video game DVD
The ending and credits are already written on it
even though you have only made it past the first chapter
Twenty years from now is already etched in stone and we only
have marginal control over the way in which the winds blow us
to that already pre-coded ending.
Thanks Banana
I believe I understand and I agree. |
Electric_Banana
| @Erimitus Said
Thanks Banana
I believe I understand and I agree.
I wouldn't try to sell the idea as truth but I wouldn't
disregard the probability of it either. |
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Moment
April 17, 2019 @ 06:01:00 am
