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shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#1New Post! Nov 28, 2015 @ 03:19:21
Supreme Court justice blocks Native Hawaiian vote count
By JENNIFER SINCO KELLEHER
2 hours ago

HONOLULU (AP) — A U.S. Supreme Court justice on Friday issued a temporary stay blocking the counting of votes in an election that would be a significant step toward Native Hawaiian self-governance.

https://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-justice-blocks-native-hawaiian-vote-count-182011140.html
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 16:32:26
Good, at least they won't be disappointed when they realize that self-governance is not the answer to the problems that are created by capitalism.
boxer On June 16, 2016

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#3New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 18:18:24
Here's something that I'm not surprised that Shino has completely ignored.


Since the Supreme Court decided in favor of marriage equality, exactly ZERO of the 10 largest indian nations have revisited their policies of banning same sex marriage, which leaves nearly a million people being forced to choose between who they love and where they live.

The two largest indian nations have publicly stated that they have no intention of giving legal status to same sex relationships and nine smaller nations have stated that same sex couples who marry can not live together on their land.

Wonder why this horrible injustice isn't being railed against here?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#4New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 19:04:38
@boxer Said

Here's something that I'm not surprised that Shino has completely ignored.


Since the Supreme Court decided in favor of marriage equality, exactly ZERO of the 10 largest indian nations have revisited their policies of banning same sex marriage, which leaves nearly a million people being forced to choose between who they love and where they live.

The two largest indian nations have publicly stated that they have no intention of giving legal status to same sex relationships and nine smaller nations have stated that same sex couples who marry can not live together on their land.

Wonder why this horrible injustice isn't being railed against here?


You had me blocked- it was mentioned previously a few months(years?) back in another thread. First Nation's generally had no issues with our Two-Spirit families. That was taught by the invaders & christianity. That such political governance was forced upon First Nations is no surprise to me that they fell in line with the status quo of american thought. And as inferred some Nations have indeed passed laws for equality- in fact many were the first in this country.

Two Spirit/LGBT Rights Toolkit for Tribal Governments Introduced

Gale Courey Toensing
9/26/12
A first-of-its-kind guide complete with sample legal language is now available for tribal governments to adopt or amend their laws to recognize the rights of all their citizens, including Two Spirit and lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people.

The “Tribal Equity Toolkit: Tribal Resolutions and Codes to Support Two Spirit and LGBT Justice in Indian Country” made its debut on September 26 when it was introduced to delegates at the Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians’ 59th Annual Fall Convention at the Wild Horse Resort & Casino in Pendleton, Oregon.

“Our hope is to begin to construct a cohesive narrative about Two Spirit & LGBT Natives within our own Tribal communities and for those stories to compel us to take action,” said Se-ah-dom Edmo, director of the Indigenous Ways of Knowing Program at Lewis & Clark College, which developed the toolkit in partnership with the Native American Program of Legal Aid Services of Oregon, Basic Rights Oregon and the Western States Center. The Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians supported the work.


Read more at https://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/09/26/two-spiritlgbt-rights-toolkit-tribal-governments-introduced-136018
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#5New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 19:16:38
Some more on First Nations that I mentioned above:
"Ahead of a historic U.S. Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage, a parallel debate is raging inside another sovereign nation within U.S. borders: the Navajo nation.

But unlike those in the 50 states, Native Americans who support gay marriage—a coalition of LGBT Navajo, their allies, and even the leading candidate running for the Navajo presidency—have history on their side.

The Navajos have a rich, documented history of accepting and even honoring people that identified with different genders and sexual preferences.


Hastiin Klah (1867-1937) embodied both male and female spirits and is identified in this photo as a nádleehí Navajo. He was a weaver and medicine man. (Photographer: Harmon T. Parkhurst, Courtesy of New Mexico Palace of the Governors Photo Archives)

In fact, as recently as 10 years ago, same-sex unions were recognized by the Navajos.

“We were recognizing same-sex unions between a man and a man and a woman and a woman long before white people came on to this land,” Alray Nelson, lead organizer at the Coalition for Navajo Equality, a local community group working to end the ban on gay marriage, told Fusion.


That changed in 2005, when, following the footsteps of the U.S. Defense of Marriage Act, the Navajo Nation introduced its own version, called the Diné Marriage Act.

The Navajo nation recognizes what are known as “tribal common-law marriages.” If a couple is cohabitating and “holding out to the public as being married” then the tribal government recognizes that couple as a married unit.

“Before the 2005 Diné Marriage Act, that was a law for everyone,” Nelson said."
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#6New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 19:26:28
My family has helped lead the fight for our Two-Spirit family. This is only a recent fight we have to do because of alien cultural & religious forcings. Traditional peoples within the Nations have always known the sacredness and normalcy of Two-Spirit.
Nations that provide legal recognition
1 Blackfeet Nation
2 Central Council of the Tlingit and Haida Indian Tribes of Alaska
3 Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes
4 Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians
5 Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation
6 Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon
7 Coquille Indian Tribe
8 Eastern Shoshone Tribe
9 Fort McDermitt Paiute and Shoshone Tribes
10 Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation
11 Grand Portage Band of Chippewa
12 Iipay Nation of Santa Ysabel
13 Keweenaw Bay Indian Community
14 Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa
15 Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe
16 Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians
17 Mashantucket Pequot Tribal Nation
18 Northern Arapaho Tribe
19 Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin
20 Pascua Yaqui Tribe
21 Pokagon Band of Potawatomi Indians
22 Port Gamble S’Klallam Tribe
23 The Puyallup Tribe of Indians
24 Salt River Pima–Maricopa Indian Community
25 San Carlos Apache Tribe
26 Suquamish Tribe
Nations that might have recognition
1 Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Indians of Oklahoma
2 Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians
3 Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes of the Fort Peck Indian Reservation
4 Bad River Band of the Lake Superior Tribe of Chippewa Indians
5 Bay Mills Indian Community
6 Blue Lake Rancheria
7 Burns Paiute Tribe of the Burns Paiute Indian Colony
8 Cabazon Band of Mission Indians
9 Chippewa-Cree Indians of the Rocky Boy’s Reservation
10 Chitimacha Tribe of Louisiana
11 Colorado River Indian Tribes
12 Comanche Nation
13 Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes of the Flathead Reservation
14 Confederated Tribes of Coos, Lower Umpqua and Siuslaw Indians
15 Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Reservation, Oregon
16 Confederated Tribes of the Warm Springs Reservation of Oregon
17 Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana
18 Crow Tribe of Montana
19 Curyung Tribal Council
20 Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians
21 Ely Shoshone Tribe
22 Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe
23 Fond du Lac Band of Lake Superior Chippewa
24 Fort Belknap Indian Community
25 Gila River Indian Community
26 Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians
27 Ho-Chunk Nation
28 Hoh Indian Tribe
29 Hoopa Valley Tribe
30 Hopi Indian Tribe
31 The Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe
32 Karuk Tribe
33 Lummi Nation
34 Minnesota Chippewa Tribe
35 Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians
36 Mohegan Indian Tribe of Connecticut
37 Morongo Band of Mission Indians
38 Nez Perce Tribe
39 Nisqually Indian Tribe
40 Northern Cheyenne Tribe
41 Oglala Sioux Tribe
42 Omaha Tribe of Nebraska
43 Oneida Nation of New York
44 Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma
45 Penobscot Nation
46 Pit River Tribe
47 Poarch Band of Creeks
48 Ponca Tribe of Nebraska
49 Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation
50 Pueblo of San Ildefonso
51 Rosebud Sioux Tribe
52 Sac and Fox Nation
53 Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe
54 Santee Sioux Nation
55 Sauk-Suiattle Indian Tribe
56 Sault Ste. Marie Tribe
57 Shingle Springs Band of Miwok Indians
58 Shoalwater Bay Indian Tribe
59 Shoshone-Bannock Tribes of the Fort Hall Reservation
60 Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate of the Lake Traverse Reservation
61 Smith River Rancheria
62 Snoqualmie Indian Tribe
63 Spirit Lake Tribe
64 Squaxin Island Tribe
65 Standing Rock Sioux Tribe
66 Stockbridge Munsee Community Band of Mohican Indians
67 Swinomish Indian Tribal Community
68 Tohono O'odham Nation of Arizona
69 Tulalip Tribes of Washington
70 Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians of North Dakota
71 Ute Indian Tribe of the Uintah and Ouray Reservation
72 White Earth Nation
73 White Mountain Apache Tribe
74 Winnebago Tribe of Nebraska
75 Yankton Sioux Tribe
76 Yomba Shoshone Tribe
77 Yurok Tribe
Nations that do not recognize
1 Ak-Chin Indian Community
2 Cherokee Nation
3 Chickasaw Nation
4 Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians
5 Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma
6 Kalispel Indian Community
7 Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma
8 Muscogee (Creek) Nation
9 Navajo Nation
10 Osage Nation
11 Sac & Fox Tribe of the Mississippi in Iowa
12 Seminole Nation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_under_United_States_tribal_jurisdictions#Nations_that_provide_legal_recognition
boxer On June 16, 2016

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#7New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 19:40:15
@shinobinoz Said

You had me blocked- it was mentioned previously a few months(years?) back in another thread.



Really, because it's happening NOW. Not a few months (years) back in another thread.

You are a really bad liar.


As to all your links to indiancountrytoday.com, forget about it. I'd sooner read infowars.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#8New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 19:51:34
@boxer Said

Really, because it's happening NOW. Not a few months (years) back in another thread.

You are a really bad liar.


As to all your links to indiancountrytoday.com, forget about it. I'd sooner read infowars.


Stuck in attack mode friend?

Can you please describe why you have such a big boner for First Nation's people who post here?

Restoreone & I did indeed post about this months or years ago. I happen to know it is happening now. I've not lied at anytime. You are so stuck in attack mode that cannot even see that what I posted should be of great news. I really do not follow your incessant & personal attacks on me or Restoreone. We have not done that to you.

That you'd read Infowars over the Nationally re-known & appraised First Nation's news outlet is very surprising. You should not put all of your eggs in one basket friend.
boxer On June 16, 2016

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#9New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 20:00:46
@shinobinoz Said

Stuck in attack mode friend?

Can you please describe why you have such a big boner for First Nation's people who post here?

Restoreone & I did indeed post about this months or years ago. I happen to know it is happening now. I've not lied at anytime. You are so stuck in attack mode that cannot even see that what I posted should be of great news. I really do not follow your incessant & personal attacks on me or Restoreone. We have not done that to you.

That you'd read Infowars over the Nationally re-known & appraised First Nation's news outlet is very surprising. You should not put all of your eggs in one basket friend.



Once again, because I don't agree with you 100% I'm against you 100%

And what does Resto have to do with this? Did he post here? Did I mention him? Did he have something to say about this in this thread, or are you just trying to deflect?


Your "indiancountry" peoples are not the perfect angels you make them out to be, they're people just like everyone else, and they do good things and horrible things just like everyone else.

You simply refuse to acknowledge that they ever do anything horrible, because that doesn't fit your narrative.

You should not put all your eggs in one basket, and I'm not your friend, because you're a racist.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#10New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 20:09:43
@boxer Said

Once again, because I don't agree with you 100% I'm against you 100%

And what does Resto have to do with this? Did he post here? Did I mention him? Did he have something to say about this in this thread, or are you just trying to deflect?


Your "indiancountry" peoples are not the perfect angels you make them out to be, they're people just like everyone else, and they do good things and horrible things just like everyone else.

You simply refuse to acknowledge that they ever do anything horrible, because that doesn't fit your narrative.

You should not put all your eggs in one basket, and I'm not your friend, because you're a racist.


Again friend. The personal attacks do not bode well for how people will see you. You are calling anything I say is white as black & anything I say is black as white. It generally has a lot of grey but you cannot bring yourself to civilly discuss that. Do try harder to be open minded & discuss things with me instead of just shouting over me or trying to prohibit me from discussing issues. You might even see that I am generally in agreement with you.
boxer On June 16, 2016

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#11New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 20:28:56
@shinobinoz Said

Again friend. The personal attacks do not bode well for how people will see you. You are calling anything I say is white as black & anything I say is black as white. It generally has a lot of grey but you cannot bring yourself to civilly discuss that. Do try harder to be open minded & discuss things with me instead of just shouting over me or trying to prohibit me from discussing issues. You might even see that I am generally in agreement with you.



You are not discussing anything, and don't for a moment think that you're fooling anyone.

We all talk about how relentless and racist and extreme you are via PM's, and I'm here to say that the HUGE majority of people who don't reply to anything that you post here think that you're a giant asshat and wish you would shut the f*** up.

Those of us who choose to call you out on it do so in an effort to keep TFS alive, but you won't be happy until it's a wholly ownd subsidary of indiancountrytoday.com and spouts only propaganda that you approve of.



Oh... and sorry that stating the truth is "attacking" you... How difficult is it wearing the victim coat every minute of the day? Is beign a victim something you were born with, or did you learn it?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#12New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 20:31:17
@boxer Said

You are not discussing anything, and don't for a moment think that you're fooling anyone.

We all talk about how relentless and racist and extreme you are via PM's, and I'm here to say that the HUGE majority of people who don't reply to anything that you post here think that you're a giant asshat and wish you would shut the f*** up.

Those of us who choose to call you out on it do so in an effort to keep TFS alive, but you won't be happy until it's a wholly ownd subsidary of indiancountrytoday.com and spouts only propaganda that you approve of.



Oh... and sorry that stating the truth is "attacking" you... How difficult is it wearing the victim coat every minute of the day? Is beign a victim something you were born with, or did you learn it?


Can you point out or link to ONE response to me that is substantive & regarding issues that is NOT a personal attack or opinion? I mean really? Can you?
restoreone On January 30, 2022




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#13New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 20:34:13
@boxer Said

You are not discussing anything, and don't for a moment think that you're fooling anyone.

We all talk about how relentless and racist and extreme you are via PM's, and I'm here to say that the HUGE majority of people who don't reply to anything that you post here think that you're a giant asshat and wish you would shut the f*** up.

Those of us who choose to call you out on it do so in an effort to keep TFS alive, but you won't be happy until it's a wholly ownd subsidary of indiancountrytoday.com and spouts only propaganda that you approve of.



Oh... and sorry that stating the truth is "attacking" you... How difficult is it wearing the victim coat every minute of the day? Is beign a victim something you were born with, or did you learn it?


What have you done to help change the First Nations terrible laws on LGBT issue? Are do you just want to be a victim
boxer On June 16, 2016

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#14New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 20:56:34
@shinobinoz Said

Can you point out or link to ONE response to me that is substantive & regarding issues that is NOT a personal attack or opinion? I mean really? Can you?



You would have to post something that is of substance in order for me, or anyone else to respond with something substantive.

As to the "regarding issues" part, unless a response is agreeing with you, then it's not regarding the issues, it's a racists diatribe.

And finally, as to this being personal, it's not. I don't know you, other than your extremist views online, so I'm simply responding to what I perceive as a racist extremist on a forum site.

You're no different from the dozens of racist extremists that have come and gone from here over the years.
restoreone On January 30, 2022




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#15New Post! Nov 29, 2015 @ 21:14:44
@boxer Said

Absolutely nothing. They're not on American soil, they're not obligated to follow the constitution, and I'm not an American indian, so it's none of my concern.

Tell me, did your mother drink when she was pregnant with you?


You are wrong there is a way.
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